Toilets. A waste of space?

If you start, where do you stop?

Take out the saloon table - you can rest a plate on your knee.
Take out the berths - you can sleep on sailbags.
Take out the galley sink - use a bucket (maybe the same on as used as a heads substitute?)
Take out the oven and gas rings - Ambrosia rice tastes fine cold, and uncooked Fray Bentos pies probably won't kill you (or aren't any more likely to kill you than cooked ones).
Take out the engine - makes more storage space for the Ambrosia and Fray Bentos.

If there's space for a toilet and it's already fitted 99.99% of crew would prefer it to a bucket. As would (I suggest) 100% of potential buyers of the boat when you come to sell it. Admittedly an electric one is a bit OTT in a boat of that size.

But of course, it's your boat . . .
 
If defecating alfresco is a priority, a nice teak seat on a bracket attached to the pushpit has served many oceangirdlers. No need to rip the cludgie out, just use it as a shelf. :unsure:
 
Jeez, first thing we did when we took ownership was spend £5K having two electric bogs and a 230L holding tank fitted, maybe I should have spent £3 and bought 2 orange buckets from B&Q.

On the other hand, I would not have a wife if not fitted so maybe £5K was cheap 🙄
 
It's the practice of disposal in a dog mess bin as described by the OP (if it is to be believed) that is strange and would suggest the OP finds marina with a more appropriate sluice (also known as a n Elsan disposal) like most folks hopefully use when they have a cassette type toilet .
 
Another major reason for keeping a toilet is that the discharge valves are an effective macerator, chopping poo and paper into brown soup (which fish love to eat). Throwing solid lumps of it overboard, with bundles of paper, is undesirable in every way.
 
I wouldn't take out a toilet with a holding tank, plenty of scenarios where you want to use the loo on the boat but it isn't appropriate to flush overboard.
But I might take out a flushing loo with no holding tank and replace it with a good quality porta potty, just as a cheap and simple way of getting a holding tank.
 
vyv_cox said:
Another major reason for keeping a toilet is that the discharge valves are an effective macerator, chopping poo and paper into brown soup (which fish love to eat). Throwing solid lumps of it overboard, with bundles of paper, is undesirable in every way.
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That's interesting.
The Blue Whale emits about 100 litres of waste at each motion. Probably not recommended to be downwind when they break wind.
At least it's digested krill rather than the refined junk we all eat.😁
 
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vyv_cox said:
Another major reason for keeping a toilet is that the discharge valves are an effective macerator, chopping poo and paper into brown soup (which fish love to eat). Throwing solid lumps of it overboard, with bundles of paper, is undesirable in every way.
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Mmm, not really sure I can agree about that vyv. The end result is still shit and paper, none of it desireable in a bay off the beach. Out at sea I doubt think there would be much realistic difference in the decomposition of the contents from a heads or bucket.
Regardless, its a drop in the ocean compared to what our water companies are pumping into our bays!
 
steve yates said:
Mmm, not really sure I can agree about that vyv. The end result is still shit and paper, none of it desireable in a bay off the beach. Out at sea I doubt think there would be much realistic difference in the decomposition of the contents from a heads or bucket.
Regardless, its a drop in the ocean compared to what our water companies are pumping into our bays!
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The composition may be the same, but the consistency is very different. The output from a marine toilet disperses quickly and will be undetectable within a few minutes, with any unfriendly microbiology diluted to safe levels, at least in, eg the Solent, where the water is changed by the management twice a day. In a Mediterranean bay with no tide, however, a holding tank is a good idea (legal requirement?)
 
Daydream believer said:
Will you empty it first, or do a "Tracy Emin", fill it with clear resin & call it "Log in a Blakes" & sell it for a few £K
You can imagine the poncy, plum in mouth, art experts in the gallery, with their catalogues in hand, peering down at it, discussing the merits of----------------bronze V true design SCs?
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The thing is a piece of art without having to do that.
I sometimes catch myself gazing at it it for ages.
 
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