Today, the RYA called me.......

[RobbieW]

...RYA are not decision makers in these matters - all they can do is keep in top of the information, offer alternative view points, and question accuracy.

However, that is not something they have done in respect of the issues around Studland and eelgrass. I emailed Sarah Tresseder outlining concerns with the RYAs approach earlier this year, got a very prompt response directing me to the member of her team responsible. Emailed him with a pointer to specific documents put together by #oldharry and #MarlynSpyke suggesting the RYA commision thier own research into eelgrass (UK) characteristics and got a very noncommittal response. About the the same time the RYA had published thier (still current) response to environmental concerns at Studland, https://www.rya.org.uk/news/rya-cal...viable-approach-to-management-of-studland-bay, which doesnt challenge the MMO position

 

[st599]

However, that is not something they have done in respect of the issues around Studland and eelgrass. I emailed Sarah Tresseder outlining concerns with the RYAs approach earlier this year, got a very prompt response directing me to the member of her team responsible. Emailed him with a pointer to specific documents put together by #oldharry and #MarlynSpyke suggesting the RYA commision thier own research into eelgrass (UK) characteristics and got a very noncommittal response. About the the same time the RYA had published thier (still current) response to environmental concerns at Studland, https://www.rya.org.uk/news/rya-cal...viable-approach-to-management-of-studland-bay, which doesnt challenge the MMO position

The MMO don't have a position, they're the implementers of the plan, not the architects. That boat sailed a few years ago.

The current situation is that the MMO have been told what areas require safeguards to be implemented and what the outcomes of those safeguards must be. One of those is that seagrass must be left unmolested to enable it to regrow (as it's part of the UK's major carbon scheme).

The only thing they can do is allow mitigations, like eco-moorings, if the RYA can prove they're viable. They can't re-examine the science or change the allocations, neither is in their remit.

 

[RobbieW]

The MMO don't have a position, they're the implementers of the plan, not the architects. That boat sailed a few years ago.

The current situation is that the MMO have been told what areas require safeguards to be implemented and what the outcomes of those safeguards must be. One of those is that seagrass must be left unmolested to enable it to regrow (as it's part of the UK's major carbon scheme).

The only thing they can do is allow mitigations, like eco-moorings, if the RYA can prove they're viable. They can't re-examine the science or change the allocations, neither is in their remit.

Ok, so if we believe the RYA operate in the corridors of power, working on whoever sets the policy

 

[JumbleDuck]

Ok, so if we believe the RYA operate in the corridors of power, working on whoever sets the policy has the money.

FTFY, as they say.

 

[Tomahawk]

How many hectares of nature reserve natural environmental SSSI and Ramsar sites and ESA are there around the country? Even allowing for overlap where one bit of space is treble designated with layers of "protection" there is more space given over to so called conservation than built environment for people to live in. Yet whilst conservationist argue they represent the population at large, there are more football and cricket fans than environmental hobbyists.

 

[Tomahawk]

Caring for the environment may seem to be altruistic. But I am mindful of the behaviour of one Neil Madement Garret. As a bug (actually seahorse) hugger he says "I have seen a bit of wildlife I like looking at in this place" and demands no one is allowed to do anything that may interfere with his hobby of looking at wildlife. In a short whild you will be denied your freedom to navigate and enjoy your boat in Studland because someone is pretending to care for the environment. Once that is established, the bug huggers will say the same applies to more and more water. There are already thousands of acres of "nature reserves" where no one apart from wildlife enthusiasts are allowed to do anything. Yet "environmentalism" as a hobby only accounts for a tiny part of the population.

Is that altruistic or selfish?

 

[colhel]

3 years ago my boat was written off by an RYA approved/recognised sailing school yacht.
I'm not a member of the RYA so had no access to their legal team. Should the RYA have looked into this incident to see if both parties were treated equally?

 

[Pye_End]

Language such as 'treehuggers', 'hobby environmentalists' attempt to degrade such a critical area of our lives. Without people who care for our surroundings we would still be dumping pollutants at sea; whales would have been fished to death; endangered species would more than likely be largely pictures in a book; crop spraying would not be restricted (bee population is already critical - and selfishly this should really concern us) etc etc. Numbers of almost all species of everything have declined, many massively, due to man, except man. Conserving what few habitats are left is critical for survival for so much of our wildlife.

Every day you see people who don't care - walk along the verges in the countryside and they are full of man's litter. Vandalism on a relatively small scale is all around us, on a vast scale such as the Amazon rain forests. It is difficult to comprehend how anyone thinks we are good custodians of our world.

I cannot think of any large areas set up in my neck of the woods that are designated for their nature that have now no access to the public when they once did, apart from a few small specific breeding areas. Almost all have access. Where are all these 'no go' acres? However, if man is banned from some places on this planet then that is probably a good thing - we have to be more responsible.

 

[dunedin]

3 years ago my boat was written off by an RYA approved/recognised sailing school yacht.
I'm not a member of the RYA so had no access to their legal team. Should the RYA have looked into this incident to see if both parties were treated equally?

That’s a horrible situation for anybody, whomever caused such an accident. Hope you got back on the water again quickly.
But re your question, no - not unless you specifically raised any concerns with the RYA, and why you wanted them to investigate the incident. Did you? Otherwise just a standard insurance job.