Hurricane
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Looks like the Americans are opening their pubs 
THOSE OF US WITH BOATS IN THE MED
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Hooligan
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Along the same lines.....
On a more serious matter it seems that Continental Europe at least is communicating with its citizens. We have been lucky in that our lockdown has been of the less serious variety ie we can get out and exercise etc but it is now time to outline how we emerge and when or else people will take matters into their own hands I suspect, something that is already happening as it is obvious that economically we cannot have the state reup on the furlough past June and everyone can see this. Bottom line is that we are going to have to live with this virus for quite some time to come and we all will have to practise sensible measures that minimise the R factor which is almost certain to rise again everywhere. While boating is in my mind a safe environment - typically family only or close friends, away from crowds etc - I suspect most will have absolutely no sympathy if the boaters are not allowed out. Ergo this community is way down the list of anyone's priorities and it would be hard to argue against that.
On a more serious matter it seems that Continental Europe at least is communicating with its citizens. We have been lucky in that our lockdown has been of the less serious variety ie we can get out and exercise etc but it is now time to outline how we emerge and when or else people will take matters into their own hands I suspect, something that is already happening as it is obvious that economically we cannot have the state reup on the furlough past June and everyone can see this. Bottom line is that we are going to have to live with this virus for quite some time to come and we all will have to practise sensible measures that minimise the R factor which is almost certain to rise again everywhere. While boating is in my mind a safe environment - typically family only or close friends, away from crowds etc - I suspect most will have absolutely no sympathy if the boaters are not allowed out. Ergo this community is way down the list of anyone's priorities and it would be hard to argue against that.
Hurricane
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This was posted on our marina forum yesterday.
Might be of interest on here.
Might be of interest on here.
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No information on when tourist travel to Spain would be permitted?
Clancy Moped
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Portofino
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They will be looking at the R numbers .
If they are comparable between areas then it’s a go er .
It will come last once they are happy with the domestic easing on the size of R number .
Initially cross border motor and rail with geographic countries .
Nor sure on flying there are too many risky unknowns at this ( 29/4) time .
Bouba
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The port has just taken my boat out the water???
mcanderson
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Hopefully not as a surprise!
Bouba
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The problem as been that there is no room left in the boat yard. I just wanted my anodes out of the water?
Clancy Moped
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How much do they charge for putting new sticky tape on?
Portofino
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List to port ?
Bouba
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Gorilla tape is a boater’s best friend ??
Bouba
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That is how you know the fresh water tank is full?
longjohnsilver
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Is their pressure washer not working? That will be a right bastard to clean when it’s dry and baked on.
Portofino
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Now theres no continuity via the electrolyte sea water salt solution connecting what the anodes are supposed to be protecting .
Assume the engines coolers are swimming in seawater if the master cocks are closed or partially full if open and semi drained off during the lift .
If the latter then let’s hope the water level in various coolers is above ( if any applicable?) any pencil anodes .If they are dangling in air that’s not good either .
The best thing is to replace anodes in a timely fashion and keep them in continuity via sea water with what ever they protect .
They don’t work in thin air !!If the zinc can’t deplete then next inline are bits of your Cummins engine .
Suppose a diver could have switched them out for new with the boat in situ ?
A few days out for the annual in the general scheme is ok .
Is it on its annual or just out for the C19 indefinitely?
Bouba
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I’m sure they did straight away
Bouba
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I would normally have the engine serviced by now with new pencil anodes and the hull anti fouled and new anodes and the stainless steel all polished
How long it stays out now is going to depend on how busy the yard is and what the terms of our parole are. We live in strange times
Hurricane
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A couple more postings from SCMCHAT
This interesting one from The Catalan News
Q&A: Bars, restaurants, masks and museums, how will the lockdown exit plan work?
Oh yes and this one:-
This interesting one from The Catalan News
Q&A: Bars, restaurants, masks and museums, how will the lockdown exit plan work?
Oh yes and this one:-
MapisM
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I struggle to imagine why there should be more or less sea water left inside any cooler depending on whether the boat is on the hard or not.
Did you ever come across a boat whose CACs or HEs were not above the w/line?
Portofino
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Good point but the zinc(s) need the continuity of the sea water to work to complete the electrolytic circuit .Thus irrespective of drain down , partial or complete , planed or otherwise corrosion of cooler components is a real issue because inadvertently the circuit is broken .
When dissimilar metals stop seeing the anodes electrolytic corrosion in starts between themselves. .Take a peak in any big yards engine shed scrap metal skip and its full of corroded coolers , and knackered alloy outdrive leg casings as well .So something’s going on .
Ask yourself why ? Why are theses seemingly anode protected components corroding ?
Ask your self why CAT life there CAC for only 6 years and recommend a change out / replacement in the sense of a throw away part .CAT also suggest in there service manuals every 2 years remove and pressure test the CAC ,s .
How,s the partial ( above the WL ) drain down pencil anodic protection doing there then may I ask ? Why does it not work ?
For the last 10 y or so I have done the annual maintenance of my boats in a yard which has a huge engine shed and there’s usually at least 10+ engine s out dismantled and inside at the end of the building a 2x2x2m wire mesh scrap skip .Believe me corrosion of cooling components that come in contact particularly outer casings is a real issue out there .
I think you are missing the point of little pockets of damp salt water or any volume left behind + the usual dissimilarity of metals are suddenly electrolytically disconnected from the protective zinc(s) process by hoicking the hull on the hard .Dry zincs don’t deplete .But damp / wet dissimilar metals in contact do continue to corroded because they can’t see the zincs.
Think of the rationale behind fresh water flush of jet tenders , jet skis and OB s when out of the sea .Anodic protection is not strong enough after loosing that TOTAL seawater connectivity .Next best thing is to attempt somewhat to loose the stagnant salt solution by the fresh water rinse .
Our boats ( MANs system of a huge transom anode instead of local pencils ) means the zinc is always sufficiently submersed to protect after a shut down and partial drain down of any coolers .How ever the point is engine components that are in contact with seawater inside will suffer if the transom is high n dry like on the hard for any long period of time , and water is present inside components.Unless the whole boat inc inside the coolers is fresh water flushed ( like a jet tender ) and dehumidified buts that’s unlikely.If the zincs can not see the sea to deplete into then you are asking for corrosion trouble .
Pencil anodes
With theses if there’s a lot of drain down for what ever reason leaving the anodes dry , moisture in the trapped air is sufficient to stimulate corrosion between dissimilar components ,facilitated
So on the hard it depends on the lift or ramp angles of the carriage and relative install angles if any cooler pencils become dry .
Just trying to work out who’s providing the scrap metal fodder in the yard and more importantly how .
Counter intuitively the best protection from the zinc(s) is with the boat , OB , jet rib , jet ski left in the water( sitting at the correct incline ) with obviously sufficiently size zincs or what ever anode materials the manufacturers recommend.