DJE
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Tall and spectacularly ugly! Presumably the MOD don't need to bother with planning permission.
Those New Navigation Light Piles Outside Portsmouth.
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Giblets
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You mean these:
DJE
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Yep. All that fuss about wind farms spoiling the view and those things spring up apparently unopposed.
Vanilla
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Are they now breeding indiscriminately as I've only seen 2 sets of 3 of those new yellow thingies....what do they signify exactly? Couldn't find a CLEAR answer on QHM website,,,
Topcat47
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They are "leading lights" specifically for the carriers. The harbour entrance is small and the carriers relatively big. The bridge is high up on the side of the flight deck so normal line of sight isn't going to cut the mustard lining them up to clear the entrance. It was hard enough getting the USS Ohio in and out, these are longer and taller. Hope this helps.
capnsensible
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Much better to have multi billion pound aircraft carriers crashing rather than spoiling the view, eh?
Giblets
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There are another six to be installed inside the harbour - three just north of the Porchester Channel junction and three just south of the Bomb Ketch Lake junction.
The Solent ones are for use when the carriers leave the harbour and the inner ones for use when they enter the harbour. They have high intensity lights fitted which will only be used when the carriers arrive or depart. At other times they will have normal yellow flashy lights on for our benefit.
NickRobinson
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True- turbines should only put up t'North, where they doesn't bother anyone important....
.The channel markers going into Barrow are old but ugly too. Dredging been going on all summer, for the same purpose.
DJE
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Much better to have multi billion pound aircraft carriers crashing rather than spoiling the view, eh?
Accepting that they are necessary (there is a whole other thread there!) there seems to have been no thought to aesthetics in the design of the structures. I would expect to see that sort of utilitarian metalwork in an oil refinery or a chemical plant, but right in front of a holiday promenade I'm sure they could have done better. And I have done a fair amount of structural steel design over the years.
prv
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rotrax
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Well, the "view" they're spoiling is only Portsmouth, so...
Pete
Thats right-the ones outside the harbour cant be seen from Gosport.....................................
Fantasie 19
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prv
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First time I Have ever heard "aesthetic" used in a conversation about navigation marks...
To be fair, these are probably the largest navigation marks I've seen short of an actual lighthouse, and there are lots of them.
Still not convinced that anybody goes on holiday to Portsmouth, though
Pete
Fantasie 19
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To be fair, these are probably the largest navigation marks I've seen short of an actual lighthouse, and there are lots of them.
Still not convinced that anybody goes on holiday to Portsmouth, though
Pete
Shut yer face - I was born there and live just up the road - if you can ignore the Gosport side I still reckon it's one of the finest harbours anywhere, to arrive in by water...
Mark-1
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I guess they got the idea from "Swallows and Amazons".
Anyone know why 6 posts for each transit rather than two?
https://insidedio.blog.gov.uk/2016/...outh-navigation-lights-for-aircraft-carriers/
Anyone know why 6 posts for each transit rather than two?
https://insidedio.blog.gov.uk/2016/...outh-navigation-lights-for-aircraft-carriers/
TallBuoy
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Must admit that it puzzles me why in the 21st century we are building super-carriers that can go anywhere in the world, but can't find their way in and out their home harbour without additional nav aids!
DJE
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Thanks for the link. I have repeated my comments on their blog where they are "awaiting moderation". I wonder if they will publish them.
LadyInBed
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That thought crossed my mind as well, but the RN have been known to run into chunks of rock before now.
KevB
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They are there because the RN are stinkpots and the 'drivers' don't know what they're doing. Now if the RN still used sail there'd be no need for flashy lights as they'd navigate by their noses and the fragrance of Portsmouth's famous 'lady's of the night'. :encouragement:
