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Is every yacht required to carry a liferaft in Portugal and SW Spain now?
and another group who declined to be identified,
Is every yacht required to carry a liferaft in Portugal and SW Spain now?
I don't know about the rest of Portugal but here on the Guadiana there is intense activity by various authorities up and down the river as far as Alcutim and Mertola. Two large Maritime Police ribs, jointly staffed by Spanish and Portuguese officials from customs, immigration, maritime police and an other group who declined to be identified, are pretty constantly on patrol and boarding yachts. I have been boarded at anchor and appropriate boat documents and personal passports studied. A small scale inspection of safety gear was undertaken eg fire extinguishers and life raft.
Is every yacht required to carry a liferaft in Portugal and SW Spain now?
I think that if anyone who declined to be identified requested to board my boat I would refuse them permission.
Is every yacht required to carry a liferaft in Portugal and SW Spain now?
According to the law (as I posted above) if you are within 6 miles of the coast you don't need a liferaft.
It would be amusing to see you try to tell the policia maritima or the navy that. As Chinita posted, the best explanation of the situation is on his link above to Lagos Navigators. Equipment required is dictated by category of boat, not where it happens to be sailing at the time.
According to the law (as I posted above) if you are within 6 miles of the coast you don't need a liferaft.
If that is the case, wonder why boats are being checked for life rafts in the River Guadiana?
They are also checking for Portuguese Light dues. Wonder how this applies to Spanish flagged vessels who are based in Ayamonte (Spain) or further down the Andalusian coast & never enter Portuguese Water.
All very confusing but best be polite & cooperative & all seems to remain painless.
Suspect skippers who refused to cooperate or allow the authorities to board would find it go very painful very quickly.
Having now left Lagos, we are curently in the Guadiana so will see what, if anything, developes. Nothing to date.
This is from the RYA site "Following communication with the RYA, however, the Director General has now recognised the difficulties this presented for non-Portuguese flagged boats. The matter has been discussed between the Maritime Authority (Captain of the Port and Maritime Police responsible for the law enforcement) and the Maritime Administration (DGRM, responsible for law making) and the result is a policy decision that for pleasure craft not engaged in any locally based commercial activity like boat rentals, cruises, fishing or diving (for which special rules and licensing apply), Portuguese rules should only apply to vessels that stay for longer than a total of 180 days in a 365 day period. "
That's from Lisbon but no guarantee it's got down to local level yet or, if they will take any notice. Many of us have been here for several years and they know it so, I'm not expecting any leeway if pulled.
Agree, doubt if anything will change in the immediate future like the next few years!
Assume they are referring to safety equipment rather than circulation tax which is manage by a different authority?
Light dues, yet another issue, so anticipate all vessels will require a current certificate?
Nice summary!There are different issues here. The circulation tax is paid to the Finances (tax dept.) and, just like road tax on a car, the police aren't interested in it. I "think" the circulation tax is based on 180 days in any 360 day period, unlike light dues but, unless providing tax returns, it's unlikely the Finances will even know a boat is here.
Most people pulled are asked if they've paid light dues and, for the sake of 2 euro every 6 months, it's not worth dodging.
Whilst I agree that a tiny minority of those just visiting on their way through may have been treated unfairly in the past, those of us based here are, in most cases, breaking the rules. Luckily, the Portuguese don't (so far) insist on matriculating boats whose owners have exceeded their residence period, unlike Spain.