Bigplumbs
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Have you asked them ?
The serious danger of the wrong diesel heater exhaust fitted.
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Have you asked them ?
lynallbel
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harvey38
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Too numerous to mention, join the FB group and you'll soon be enlightened. I am sure there are plenty of very happy customers and there are some very neat installations in sheds, green houses, campers etc but there are some interesting issues and failures. These may by down to bad installation/bad fuel/lack of voltage but whilst my D5 is clicking away nicely, I'll continue to monitor FB.
Bigplumbs
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So they do make one and charge twice the price of a complete Chinese heater ?
Hot Property
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Dennis, you don't get it!
They are reasurringly expensive which gives some users comfort.
Don't let facts get in the way of a good story....
Bigplumbs
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Indeed. When I left my house the other day pondering whether to try my cheap Chinese outboard I looked up and the sky fell on my head
Bigplumbs
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The reasurringly expensive thing is well know by many people as well as eBay resellers. They will go to the Chinese and buy say a £10 item from them rebadge it and sell it for £100. Those who live in a world believing that inexpensive means crap buy the rebadged one and think they have better quality when in fact they have the same thing. Who is having the last laugh. Such people often shop in Waitrose and won’t set foot in Lidl
Robin
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In our case , we live aboard and the inherited EberspacherD4 went tits up comprehensively a few days before a Christmas/new year break and in a cold spell so we threw money at a direct replacement, actually a D5, which the local dealer promised to fit as soon as it arrived from EBER UK. I assumed it would be an easier fit using existing ducting etc. True to their promise they fitted it immediately albeit having to replace the exhaust skin fitting. Ours has a silencer mounted in the engine room area and runs very quietly. However the 'reassuring clicking' stopped 4 weeks later when the pump failed and had to be replaced under warranty done same day by our local heroes When they called the uk distributer for a new pump, having fitted one from their own stock, they were told 'never happened before honest, just give it a thump and it will probably unstick' They said 'it is an new install and a dodgy or a used pump was unacceptable. However now 3 years on it all works very well and I have (almost) erased the memory of the bill! I did raise the question of a Chinese one with our installers but they were very scathing unsurprisingly as main dealers for Eber and Webasto. I'm no longer capable of crawling into confined spaces and we no longer have transport to fetch 'bits' nor a workshop/tools to hand but in the good old days would very probably have gone the Chinese route myself at a convenient time probably during a routine winter refit whilst comfortably living ashore in a centrally heated home.
petem
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Are you suggesting that the Gas Safety Scheme hasn't saved lives?Yup you certainly get a piece of paper to put in your file. I have watched many installers sign those in my time
Do you think that the general public should be able to install their own gas appliances and re-wire their houses (just with the help of a few YouTibe videos and Facebook Groups) without any regulation?
Robin
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No but there are nevertheless plenty of folk with enough skill/knowledge to do many jobs without having a jobs for the boys certificate on their wall. Technically I think a certified gas fitter is required to change the on board regulator hose in our outside sealed/drained gas locker which I could do in my sleep.
Bigplumbs
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I think you don’t understand the abilities of some DIYers and the way some so called professionals go on.
For pity’s sake
If your own abilities are perhaps not up to the task does not mean others aren’t
Bigplumbs
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Spot on you got it 100%
petem
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And there's many folk who think they have enough skills when in reality they haven't got a clue what they're doing.
There's even a name for it - the "Dunning–Kruger effect".
Bigplumbs
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Are you aware of the concept of An Englishman’s home is his castle
Bigplumbs
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mrangry
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Ah I see.... so you refer to a group called "Chinese diesel vehicle air heaters - troubleshooting", of which I am a member. I would suggest that the clue for you is in the name of the group. It is hardly going to attract people looking to praise their installations is it?
If you care to take some time to look online you will also find many critical of the branded heaters which also suffer from the same issues, the only difference being is that the cost of parts for these branded units is prohibitive.
Robin
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Who regardless of any regulations will no doubt still do it themselves anyway unless big brother closes all the DIY stores except to certified folk The key is to know your limitations and summon professional help when needed.
petem
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They might do but they won't be able to sell their houses without the necessary paperwork. Nor rent them out.
But as I said before, people don't understand their limitations and they often don't know what they don't know.
What concerns me, is the trivialisation of fitting these heaters. Far too many people claiming that this is a simple and safe DIY job when in reality there's lots of mistakes that people can make with fatal consequences.
limecc
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That wouldn't work, they would just buy Chinese parts over EBay ? ?
I just paid over £2K for a new boiler which was less than £1K of the bill. Not bad for a day's work.
I have the skills and tools and could have done the job to the same or higher standard. But we don't live in a third world country where anything goes and the 'Englishman's home is his castle'. Regulations save lives.
Bigplumbs
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Are you speaking for yourself or the rest of the population
