The result of the mamby pamby state:

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Do you feel old?
According to today's regulators and bureaucrats, those of us who were kids in the 60's, 70's and early 80's probably shouldn't have survived, because our baby cots were covered with brightly coloured lead-based paint, which was promptly chewed and licked.
We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, or latches on doors or cabinets and it was fine to play with pans.
When we rode our bikes, we wore no helmets, just flip-flops and fluorescent 'spokey dokey's' on our wheels. As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or airbags - riding in the
passenger seat was a treat.
We drank water from the garden hose and not from a bottle and it tasted the same.
We ate chips, bread and butter pudding and drank fizzy juice with sugar in it, but we were never overweight because we were always outside playing.
We shared one drink with four friends, from one bottle or can and no-one actually died from this
We would spend hours building go-carts out of scraps and then went top speed down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into stinging nettles a few times, we learned to solve the problem.
We would leave home in the morning and could play all day, as long as we were back before it got dark. No one was able to reach us and no one minded
We did not have Play stations or X-Boxes, no video games at all. No 99 channels on TV, no videotape movies, no surround sound, no mobile phones, no personal computers, no DVDs, no Internet chat rooms.
We had friends - we went outside and found them.
We played elastics and rounders, and sometimes that ball really hurt!
We fell out of trees, got cut, and broke bones but there were no law suits.
We had full on fist fights but no prosecution followed from other parents.
We played knock down ginger and were actually afraid of the owners catching us.
We walked to friends' homes.
We also, believe it or not, WALKED to school; we didn't rely on mummy or daddy to drive us to school, which was just round the corner. We made up games with sticks and tennis balls. We rode bikes in packs of 7 and wore our coats by only the hood.
The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke a law was unheard of...They actually sided with the law.
This generation has produced some of the best risk-takers and problem solvers and inventors, ever. The past 50 years have been an explosion of innovation and new ideas.
We had freedom, failure, success and responsibility, and we learned how to deal with it all.


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Re:True

So what have the kids done to you this time?

You missed something out. I know two guys who became pro footballers even though they played most of their games, as kids, wearing wellies.

So was all of the changes to enhance the safety and entertainment of the little darlings worthwhile. I think not. This new crop are bored and tubby, can't organize a simple game without a grown up, who takes his reputation in both hands everytime he tries to help out, can't arrange to meet up without constant reassuring phone calls and changes of plan, venue and timing.

Kids still get diddled, run over and set on fire so while we've restricted them for safety's sake, made them hopeless, fearful, cautious and unhealthy, they are no safer than we were.

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Dont seem to remember many peadophiles, child murders and all the rest of the dross of society either, which allowed us to walk to school and play out until dark. or the privatisation of the water companies, so we have some of the worst quality water in europe, or many other things that have changed for the worse. Times change I guess. Time to bring back the death penalty for paedophilkes and child, police muderers amybe, but society must move on, or we revert to hunter gatherers!

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Re:True again

I wasn't entirely serious, as a non-parent my job here is to stir, not to add informed comment.
OTOH I read a while ago about studies done in the UK on "wild" kids who go out, cycle places, play, climb trees etc. and "tame" ones who have to phone home, get ferried by car everywhere and play lots of computer games. The results were predictable and uninteresting, but the fact that in some parts of the country things are not as you find them does give us some hope for the future. I know my daughter's kids in Lincolnshire seem to be growing up in a fairly traditional manner.


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Its easy to be gung-ho about the risks ...

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... when you are one of the survivors. Those who don't survive, don't get to complain.

The chance of a child born in 1951 dying before the age of 15 was over five times as great, as it will be for a child born in 2001, based on the period mortality rates for those years.

It hasn't all been negative.
 

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Re:True again

He's tried to wriggle out of it now, I notice.
Still, as my Rector say, probably best kept in the family . . .

Thoroughly sound luncheon thanks - steak and kidney pudding (not from a proprietory tin) - and several months off Pergatory to boot !

Have a good w/e . . .

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Re:True again

Remember in the fiftys at primary school having to stand and queue and watch the kid in front having an enormous needle thrust in there arm in the hope we didnt get polio there was bodies fainting everywhere what joy Jeffro

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Re: Its easy to be gung-ho about the risks ...

"The chance of a child born in 1951 dying before the age of 15 was over five times as great, as it will be for a child born in 2001, based on the period mortality rates for those years.

It hasn't all been negative."


. . . except when you look at the extra ones which have survived . . .

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Eugenics on Scuttlebutt?

You are advocating pruning out those individuals not considered fit to survive? Hey, not every day I get to call someone a Nazi!

;-)

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Re: Eugenics on Scuttlebutt?

Not at all; you're putting your own interpretation onto what's been posted.

I once accused an aquaintance of mine of being a Neo-Nazi to which he replied,
"There's nothing Neo about me!"

I repeat an aquaintance, not a friend.

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Err beg to differ.

the 19th century saw all the great problem solving and risk taking advances in science/engineering/medicine,not to mention inventivness.That post war lot just stood are their shoulders and tweaked things along a bit by virtue of having a few fancy machines at the disposal.


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Re: Its easy to be gung-ho about the risks ...

Yep Born 1951.......should't be here now!!!!!! pnemonia 3 times, TB, fell off 20' roof chucking water over mate below at age 10..... when I was 17 found out that I had a disese from birth and should'nt have survived.........wonderd why I was always ill.......still going stong must have been all that fresh air, tree climbing, bomb site rummiging in east london, not to mention camp fire's blackend spuds....chasing girls now yer talking...........oh' six of the best on each hand, slipper on the arris...dads leather dockers belt...and the odd clip round the ear from the old bill...!! Ah! those were the days...

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