smartmove2014
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Yes, I suspect something certainly along these lines but android is certainly not lacking on any functions/features of iOS so the 2 apps could certainly be equal if the app developers so desired.
The Hudl, what a splendid piece of kit it is
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Yes, I suspect something certainly along these lines but android is certainly not lacking on any functions/features of iOS so the 2 apps could certainly be equal if the app developers so desired.
harry potter
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Waypoint on Navionics Easy Peasy
1. Centre your boat on screen by tapping the arrow
2. Tap the two notes icon which will place a red pin on your boat with a purple pin to the right at 90 degrees.
3. Drag purple pin to waypoint ( which can be a blue saved marker or geographical feature).
This give distance and course to steer, and will adjust as you progress through the water. Speed also given on screen. Variation from course shown as red line ( actual trajectory ) versus purple (or is it blue?) to purple pin/waypoint.
I'd send you some screenprints but I'm land locked at the moment.
You can zoom/shrink the screen and the info will hold true - e.g. over the Channel.
Only problem is when someone 'helpful' taps the notes icon and it clears ( has to be reset).
Have compared it many times to paper charts and it is accurate.
Be cautious over long distances as scale of chart can lead you to miss potential hazards along the route.
Isolated dangers (Pierre au Vraic) or just as a clue where to point your binos to pick up a buoy - invaluable.
1. Centre your boat on screen by tapping the arrow
2. Tap the two notes icon which will place a red pin on your boat with a purple pin to the right at 90 degrees.
3. Drag purple pin to waypoint ( which can be a blue saved marker or geographical feature).
This give distance and course to steer, and will adjust as you progress through the water. Speed also given on screen. Variation from course shown as red line ( actual trajectory ) versus purple (or is it blue?) to purple pin/waypoint.
I'd send you some screenprints but I'm land locked at the moment.
You can zoom/shrink the screen and the info will hold true - e.g. over the Channel.
Only problem is when someone 'helpful' taps the notes icon and it clears ( has to be reset).
Have compared it many times to paper charts and it is accurate.
Be cautious over long distances as scale of chart can lead you to miss potential hazards along the route.
Isolated dangers (Pierre au Vraic) or just as a clue where to point your binos to pick up a buoy - invaluable.
skodster
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I have a Note10.1 and have installed this;
http://www.gpsnauticalcharts.com/main/
I'm very impressed.
http://www.gpsnauticalcharts.com/main/
I'm very impressed.
chartnavigator
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Bear it in mind though that the development teams for iOS and Android are probably not the same people at all and that they have virtually 'started from scratch' with a brief from Navionics simply saying what features they want and what the screens should look like. No doubt if enough users give feedback saying they want certain features, the software developers will consider whether to provide them whenever an update is due. Your point about one platform wanting to steal a march on another is probably valid though. Apple is very touchy about allowing complete 'lookalikes' of apps on the AppStore, (their developer contracts are very closely written and quite specific), but I doubt they could influence which app features may appear on other platforms.
Am I right in thinking then that forum members with Hudls and running the Navionics app are satisfied that it works OK for the purpose of route planning? i.e of working out the best possible time of departure, working out an ETA and using the streams to best possible advantage on passage? Or do you use it just for getting a GPS 'fix' and a bearing to the next waypoint, in real time? Regards Chris.
Vega1447
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IMHO the android version is "just a chart plotter" and useless for passage planning.
Still very useful and 10 years ago would have seemed like black magic..
GHA
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A handy, if slightly long winded option is installing android in a virtual machine like vmware on your pc, then routes can be created at home on a big screen which will automatically sync with a tablet.
DaveRo
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I would expect a company like Navionics, which has been producing computerised maps and charts for ages, to have a 'codebase' of mapping functions which is common to both iOS and Android which is then overlaid with a user interface (UI) which is particular to the device. This UI is tightly specified by Apple and some features are both mandatory (so it's consistent with other apps) and are Apple's intellectual property. Android is much less tightly controlled but there are still some UI features which are highly desirable for consistency.
I'm sure the differences are commercial and contractual. Not least, Apple users are more likely to spend money than Android users (that's not my opinion - it's backed up by many surveys) and Android apps are more expensive to develop and maintain due to its many various flavours. So I would expect Navionics to develop for iOS first and then 'back port' features to Android if there's time and sufficient reward.
The variety of Android devices presents a problem to developers like Navionics. They can guarantee it will work on Nexus - which is a reference platform - but do they go to the expense of testing other devices, like Hudl, whose manufacturers may not release updates and whose users are more thrifty?
mjcoon
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I have no Apple experience but that description does not surprise me. I get the impression that Android UIs are extremely variable, at least on the few dozen (mostly free) apps I have downloaded. The most basic aspects, such as menu handling or reaction to the "Back" button, vary widely. It makes remembering how each app works unnecessarily challenging!
Mike.
DaveRo
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Consistency is generally desirable, but I find the straightjacket that Apple requires UI designers to adhere to can make simple tasks very longwinded. Separate 'edit' panels for bookmarks in Safari, for example - you can't even check the target of a bookmark without going though the edit panel. The obvious and quickest way to edit a bookmark would be to long-tap it and select 'edit' from a context menu. Apple enforce this complicated method on other apps from what I've seen.
Android does have rules but allows the designer to come up with a UI that suits the app and its users. Firefox, for example, has changed the UI quite a bit since the Android version was introduced and is homing in on something which is very easy to use. Windows and Linux take a similar approach. (I don't know about Mac but Firefox runs in Mac so I suspect it's similar.)
chartnavigator
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I agree, Apple is very touchy about how developers integrate their apps UI to the iOS and make no secret of the fact that they prefer a certain aesthetic design appearance and feel, to all other iPhone/iPad apps, (particularly their own bundled ones), on their app store.
Having said that though I had no trouble from them when I submitted "TimeSums", to them. The UI is mostly developer designed because it needed to be also useable by the poorly sighted, so made extensive use of graphic images rather than normal operating system ways of presenting text and numerals. So Apple can be flexible when you provide a good reason for them to be so.
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Champagne Murphy
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Sorry to revive the thread.
Aside from the nav capabilities, does this have connectivity via 3G/4G? Also, what about connecting to things like external dongles? A lot of tablets eg iPad don't have any external ports although I notice that this does have mini USB. Is that enough to connect to a range of other devices?
TIA
CM
Aside from the nav capabilities, does this have connectivity via 3G/4G? Also, what about connecting to things like external dongles? A lot of tablets eg iPad don't have any external ports although I notice that this does have mini USB. Is that enough to connect to a range of other devices?
TIA
CM
Storyline
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Not sure about your 3/4G question but as regards connectivity to other usb devices this is easy if you purchase a usb 'on the go' cable which gives you a usb female socket that you can plug other devices into such as usb sticks etc. Also very useful for dumping photos from your camera to the Hudl. Use this feature a lot on the boat as our old point & shoot camera will not take large capacity SD cards so when the camera gets full we connect it to the Hudl, download the photos which can then be uploaded to the cloud or written to a larger SD card in the Hudl.
mjcoon
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Well, basic other devices via an OTG cable, anyway... But it is not a phone so has no 3G/4G of its own. The only other port it has is micro HDMI for connecting to TVs.
Note there is a Hudl-2 newly announced to go on sale on 9th October. Very similar with multiple improvements of ca. 10% in size, thinness etc.
Mike.
doug748
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I am not sure what 3/4G connectivity is but I decided I wanted it and the Hudl did not have it. I am pretty sure about that because I was miffed to see that the Hudl 2 does not have it either:
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hudl-2-hands-review-everything-bigger-better-including-its-price-1468376
I am going to buy one anyways and see how it goes.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/hudl-2-hands-review-everything-bigger-better-including-its-price-1468376
I am going to buy one anyways and see how it goes.
robmcg
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Having 3/4g on a tablet is a convenience but is an added expense as you have to purchase a sim and data plan to use it. Depending on what data plan you may already have with a smartphone, built in 3/4g may not be a necessity. I have a contract with 3, unlimited data and also have a hudl. When afloat and the phone has a 3G signal, I set it up to be a wifi hotspot and the hudl connects to that thus giving me Internet access. Not too much of a faff and no need for additional costly data plans.
sailorman
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i do just that with the lappi
Storyline
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Also has a micro SD card slot.
