The 'Classic' question?

[trib]

Re: The \'Classic\' question?

Well, as far as the Antigua Classics go, to qualify to race, here are the divisions ...

CLASSES:

Traditional - Fishing, or Cargo vessels, built or converted to sail.
Vintage - Yachts with a full keel designed and launched before January 1950
Classic - Yachts with a full keel designed and launched after January 1950
Spirit Of Tradition - Yachts built recently using modern methods and design, but retaining the original grace and style of the old classics.
Tall Ships - Sail training and passenger vessels.

Available on their web site at http://www.antiguaclassics.com/02docs/02raceinfo.htm

So ... I'm thinking of aquiring a Harrison Butler Englyn, built in 1974 in steel to THB's original lines ... is it a Classic, a Vintage, or am I in the wrong forum ???

 

[Mirelle]

Re: The \'Classic\' question?

A Post-Vintage Thoroughbred, I reckon!

HB designs were built in steel during his lifetime and he died in 1945. Sounds like a nice boat - but in your case the defining question is very simple - (this is for HB's only, of course!) - "Does Joan Jardine Brown accept her as a genuine HB boat?'

If Yes, you have the real thing, and nobody can gainsay that.

If No, no amount of casuistry will turn a goose into a swan!

But no other "Vintage" designer has an enthusiastic daughter to safeguard his legacy!

 

[Robin1]

Re: Dutch Hoogars

This is a bit of a long shot -and I probably have not posted this in exactly the right way but I need some details for a friend who is very taken by a Dutch Hoogars. It was built,surprisingly, in Devon in 1985 and I think he wants to 'use' her. I think this was built to a design plan - she is about 20ft long, about 7ft 6" beam and needs about 18 inches of water.
If anyone is able to give me some practical information etc etc I would be very grateful. As far as I can make out, one idea that has been suggested is to take her abroad and go across Europe. Sounds a bit fanciful, but there we are!

 

[heerenleed]

Re: Dutch Hoogars

The correct name of the tye is Hoogaars. Handy if you try and find things in the internet. It puzzles me that she's so small. Hoogaarses where built as fishing boats in Zeeland mainly for mussels and oysters so for shoal waters. Still, it can get pretty rough there. I can't imagine they where ment to be much smaller than some 30 ft. But maybe someone brought the drawings to the UK and built a 'miniature' as a toy, which would explain that she is so small.

There is a foundation in the Netherlands called Stichting Behoud Hoogaars, which tries to keep ols Hoogaarses sailing and in good state of repair. They will be interested in this story, also they may give you lots of information. Mail then at: info@hoogaars.nl

happy sailing



Peter a/b SV Heerenleed, Steenbergen, Netherlands