Little_Russel
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How long is that giant American warship going to anchored off Portsmouth? Are there any restrictions as to how close one is allowed to get?
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The BIG Warship
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bigmart
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tony_brighton
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I see the NTM calls for vessels navigating nearby to be aware of their wash. Perhaps we should slow down in case the wash from our 5 tonne sailing yacht causes their 100,000 tonne CVN to roll.
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craigbalsillie
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If you do get close .. look out for friendly fire..
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Twister_Ken
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Carrier Harry S Truman Capote? nm
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l'escargot
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You\'ll get chased by MOD Plod
QUEENS HARBOUR MASTER PORTSMOUTH
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS
LNTM 07/03
VISIT OF NUCLEAR POWERED AIRCRAFT CARRIER (CVN) TO PORTSMOUTH
6 - 12 MAY 2003
1. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that between 6 and 12 May 2003 a CVN will be conducting an informal visit to Portsmouth. During this period the ship will be at Charlie Anchorage off Stokes Bay.
2. Mariners are advised that the CVN is a vessel which can only safely navigate within a narrow channel or fairway (COLREGS Rule 9) and a vessel constrained by her draught (COLREGS Rule 18) at all times when underway within the Dockyard Port of Portsmouth.
3. Mariners are further advised that LNTM 64/02 (Dormant Exclusion Zone for Warships Underway) will be activated for the entry and exit of this vessel. In summary all vessels except those involved in the escort are to remain 500 metres clear of the CVN whilst she is underway. VTS Southampton, acting with QHM's authority, will direct commercial traffic to keep outside this zone.
4. Whilst at anchor there will be a 200m Exclusion Zone around the CVN enforced by Ministry of Defence Police. Only vessels authorised by QHM (VHF Channel 11) will be allowed to enter this zone.
5. For the duration of the visit miscellaneous service craft will be berthed alongside and mariners using the North Channel should amend their passage plans to ensure they avoid the restricted area. Vessels navigating in the vicinity are to maintain a listening watch on VHF and are to be aware of the effects of their wake and are to reduce speed accordingly.
6. Cancel this Local Notice to Mariners on 13 May 2003.
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QUEENS HARBOUR MASTER PORTSMOUTH
LOCAL NOTICE TO MARINERS
LNTM 07/03
VISIT OF NUCLEAR POWERED AIRCRAFT CARRIER (CVN) TO PORTSMOUTH
6 - 12 MAY 2003
1. NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that between 6 and 12 May 2003 a CVN will be conducting an informal visit to Portsmouth. During this period the ship will be at Charlie Anchorage off Stokes Bay.
2. Mariners are advised that the CVN is a vessel which can only safely navigate within a narrow channel or fairway (COLREGS Rule 9) and a vessel constrained by her draught (COLREGS Rule 18) at all times when underway within the Dockyard Port of Portsmouth.
3. Mariners are further advised that LNTM 64/02 (Dormant Exclusion Zone for Warships Underway) will be activated for the entry and exit of this vessel. In summary all vessels except those involved in the escort are to remain 500 metres clear of the CVN whilst she is underway. VTS Southampton, acting with QHM's authority, will direct commercial traffic to keep outside this zone.
4. Whilst at anchor there will be a 200m Exclusion Zone around the CVN enforced by Ministry of Defence Police. Only vessels authorised by QHM (VHF Channel 11) will be allowed to enter this zone.
5. For the duration of the visit miscellaneous service craft will be berthed alongside and mariners using the North Channel should amend their passage plans to ensure they avoid the restricted area. Vessels navigating in the vicinity are to maintain a listening watch on VHF and are to be aware of the effects of their wake and are to reduce speed accordingly.
6. Cancel this Local Notice to Mariners on 13 May 2003.
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Solitaire
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Re: You\'ll get chased by MOD Plod
I went out and saw her today. HUGE! Harbour Police are on patrol but you can get much closer than the 500 m zone. I got within about 150 m and was not turned away. A few guys tried to get closer but were pushed out. Worth a look.
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I went out and saw her today. HUGE! Harbour Police are on patrol but you can get much closer than the 500 m zone. I got within about 150 m and was not turned away. A few guys tried to get closer but were pushed out. Worth a look.
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StephenSails
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Ribsters should not wear t-towels on heads within 500 metres unless trying to atract gunfire. I would love to take a giant yellow ribbon out to them with the photo of that little doozer who had his limbs blown off attached - see how much whooping they feel like then! sad yanks - wish they would naff off with that nuke ship!
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steve_cronin
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Yank Haters.....
..make me want to puke!!!!
Cheap jibes are just about the limit of their interlect.
Steve Cronin
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..make me want to puke!!!!
Cheap jibes are just about the limit of their interlect.
Steve Cronin
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Twister_Ken
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>How long is that giant American warship<
330 metres
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2549475.stm>Big innit?</A>
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330 metres
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2549475.stm>Big innit?</A>
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StephenSails
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Re: Yank Haters.....
I dont hate yanks, just wish they would take their nuclear war ship out of the Solent and away from my firends and family - secondley I am allowed to dislike the American military machine especially if it kills thousands of innocent people.
Its a case of not in my back yard please!
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I dont hate yanks, just wish they would take their nuclear war ship out of the Solent and away from my firends and family - secondley I am allowed to dislike the American military machine especially if it kills thousands of innocent people.
Its a case of not in my back yard please!
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Moose
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Its a big ship
96,350 tons loaded
1,092 feet loa
134 feet beam
38 feet draught
252 feet flight deck
Two Pressurised water cooled (must be a big impeller!!!) nuclear Reactors supplying steam to four sets of geared turbines delievering 260,000 shp to four shafts (WOW I would do about 1200knots with that!!!)
Max Speed of 34kt+
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Moose
96,350 tons loaded
1,092 feet loa
134 feet beam
38 feet draught
252 feet flight deck
Two Pressurised water cooled (must be a big impeller!!!) nuclear Reactors supplying steam to four sets of geared turbines delievering 260,000 shp to four shafts (WOW I would do about 1200knots with that!!!)
Max Speed of 34kt+
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Moose
max_power
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Re: Yank Haters.....
Mr Sails
I respect your right to have a personal view of the American people but you make a very serious accusation that the Americans have killed thousands of innocent people.
I feel it would be proper that you back up your comments with some facts.
If statements are not going to be backed up with some facts/argument this board just reverts to playground name calling which shows no respect to it's contributors.
If you are refering to the Iraq conflict, please make it a balanced response from all sides so we can digest your thoughts and perhaps alternatives that you think may have been a better way.
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Mr Sails
I respect your right to have a personal view of the American people but you make a very serious accusation that the Americans have killed thousands of innocent people.
I feel it would be proper that you back up your comments with some facts.
If statements are not going to be backed up with some facts/argument this board just reverts to playground name calling which shows no respect to it's contributors.
If you are refering to the Iraq conflict, please make it a balanced response from all sides so we can digest your thoughts and perhaps alternatives that you think may have been a better way.
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TheBoatman
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Re: Its a big ship
(WOW I would do about 1200knots with that!!!)
But I bet it would be a bugger getting the engine hatch closed on that little lot<s>
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(WOW I would do about 1200knots with that!!!)
But I bet it would be a bugger getting the engine hatch closed on that little lot<s>
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davidhand
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Re: Its a big ship
How fast do you think that ship really is? The Queen Mary is similar both in overall length and displacement has 168,000 SHP and crossed the Atlantic at an average speed in excess of 32 kts in the 1930's. If you estimate the waterline length of both ships to be about 900 ft you get a hull speed of 42 kts, with 260,000 SHP (or more) I bet she could reach it. Thats 48 mph, I bet you'd have a hard time standing on the flight deck at that speed.
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How fast do you think that ship really is? The Queen Mary is similar both in overall length and displacement has 168,000 SHP and crossed the Atlantic at an average speed in excess of 32 kts in the 1930's. If you estimate the waterline length of both ships to be about 900 ft you get a hull speed of 42 kts, with 260,000 SHP (or more) I bet she could reach it. Thats 48 mph, I bet you'd have a hard time standing on the flight deck at that speed.
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qsiv
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Re: Its a big ship
Dont forget the carrier is much beamier - QM was kept slender to keep wavemaking resistance to a minimum. My records show she originally had 200,000 SHP installed on four shafts - very, very similar to the nuke.
It is also worth noting that the QM would have arrived very light in NY as most of the stores and particularly fuel would have been consumed on the passage, whereas the carrier will be contnuously respplied - and lets hope none of the fuel (other than AvGas and AvTur) is actually consumed!
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Dont forget the carrier is much beamier - QM was kept slender to keep wavemaking resistance to a minimum. My records show she originally had 200,000 SHP installed on four shafts - very, very similar to the nuke.
It is also worth noting that the QM would have arrived very light in NY as most of the stores and particularly fuel would have been consumed on the passage, whereas the carrier will be contnuously respplied - and lets hope none of the fuel (other than AvGas and AvTur) is actually consumed!
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StephenSails
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Re: Yank Haters.....
I refer to the UN monitored 4500 something in Afganistan and I think its reasonably safe to assume that US and UK troops had a small part to play in some random killings in Iraq as well. Please correct me if I am wrong. Now according to independant sources the innocent death toll in the war against terrorism is getting higher than that of 11/9 and we are supposed to have precision equipment and be the best!
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I refer to the UN monitored 4500 something in Afganistan and I think its reasonably safe to assume that US and UK troops had a small part to play in some random killings in Iraq as well. Please correct me if I am wrong. Now according to independant sources the innocent death toll in the war against terrorism is getting higher than that of 11/9 and we are supposed to have precision equipment and be the best!
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max_power
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See no Evil, Hear no Evil
Do nothing about Evil...
I did respectfully ask what alternatives you had in mind for stopping death, torture and hopelessness in places such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Obviously you do not have one, but still no doubt accuse the Americans and probably British forces as you put it of ‘ killing thousands of innocent people’.
There seems little point is pursuing this exchange.
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Do nothing about Evil...
I did respectfully ask what alternatives you had in mind for stopping death, torture and hopelessness in places such as Iraq and Afghanistan. Obviously you do not have one, but still no doubt accuse the Americans and probably British forces as you put it of ‘ killing thousands of innocent people’.
There seems little point is pursuing this exchange.
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Solitaire
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Check out the web site <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cvn75/index.htm>http://www.navy.mil/homepages/cvn75/index.htm</A>
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ccscott49
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Re: See no Evil, Hear no Evil
As much as I disagree with war, I also saw no other way, but was ther war about freeing people and nothing to do with oil? No problem for me, I supported our and the American troops thoughout and believe they did a good job, in horrendous conditions and overbearing press coverage. By the way, isn't the UK one of the most nuclear nations in the world with lots of nuclear power stations and reprocessing, polluting the irish sea, at least as far as Ireland? So a little nuclear reactor in a ship in the solent? Please!!
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As much as I disagree with war, I also saw no other way, but was ther war about freeing people and nothing to do with oil? No problem for me, I supported our and the American troops thoughout and believe they did a good job, in horrendous conditions and overbearing press coverage. By the way, isn't the UK one of the most nuclear nations in the world with lots of nuclear power stations and reprocessing, polluting the irish sea, at least as far as Ireland? So a little nuclear reactor in a ship in the solent? Please!!
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