Thames cruising (help please)

[jimh]

Plan to cruise around from my east coast home port this Saturday to Penton Hook, Chertsey (one hit) - Done most of my passage plan, and to get a fairly good run with the tide past London Bridge and to Richmond hopefully should arrive around 7pmish. Couple of questions for you all (as ever); do I need any licences that I can't buy on the day ? (don't have bss yet) ; will I have enough time to get to Penton Hook from Richmond before twilight sets in? ; apart from calling up woolwich barrier control, are there any other special nav issues I should know about.

The tide times are pretty cr*p, so if the answer to question 2 is no, then would you recommend punching against the tide to arrive at Richmond earlier?

thanks

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[byron]

You should be able to buy a licence at Teddington. You will not need a BSS for a 1 month temporary licence. Once free of Teddington I would proceed up until Hampton Court, moor for the night and do the rest the next day.
Other than Woolwich there are no other places you have to clear as I believe the Charing X one is ceased. Maintain radio watch on 14 until non-tidal then switch to 16.
Have a great time.

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[boatone]

Tide Times (BST)at London Bridge for this Saturday 21 Jun 2003 are:

High 07:52 and 19:54 Low 01:38 and 13:44

If you cleared London Bridge at Low Water you'd be at Teddington by 1700.
Teddington Lock works 24 hours and you can buy your visitors licence there. The NonTidal Locks will be manned until 7pm so you could just possibly make it to Chertsey before you'd need to work the lock yourself, but they leave leccy on until 9pm so not too difficult.

I'd agree with Byron.....stop overnight at Hampton Court if you can find a spot and carry on Sunday Morning.




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[trev]

From Teddington to Penton Hook will be around five hours - possibly more if you have to do the locks yourself. This makes it a long tiring day and there are some good pubs and eateries in Hampton Court, why rush ??

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[Renegade_Master]

Your not likely to get a BSS by this Saturday, cos they always find something wrong requiring a new or extra part IMHO.

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[Guest]

The keepers at Teddington may seal your loos if not chemical or holding tank variety so be prepared for same.I was told last year that unless BSS certificated you cannot use the river for pleasure cruising, but O.K. for making deliveries,bare this in mind, although they do not have power to stop you moving your boat on the river they are capable of prosecuting and dishing out hefty fines.Don`t want to sound too scarry. Have a nice weekend.

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[BarryH]

When you get a visitors licence, there's a bit on there that you sign to say that the boat complies. I've been talking to the chaps at Teddington and they say that, off the record, they haven't a clue what they're looking at. Basic things like bogs yes, other stuff no.

So when you sign this bit of paper it says that you agree the boat complies with the BSS standards. They'll still dish out a visitors licence to you anyhow. Its the revenue that they want.

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[jimh]

I have a holding tank so hopefully should be ok??

Thanks to all for the replies, I have now pretty much decided to stop over saturday night at Hampton Court and carry on in the morning to Penton Hook.

Jim

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[jimh]

is this true for new boats too? I plan to apply for the BSS in July for a broads trip. What are the 'normal' issues they find?

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[Trevethan]

It depends what part of the regulations they have changed that week... BSS is a really bad scheme, designed mostly for ditch crawlers in my view.

The rules on copper tubing for fuel system and the ventilation requirements are daft for a boat that goes to sea.

Some of the rules make sense - the gas regs and pollution controls... but a lot of it I reckon is the result of collusion with boat yards to generate extra work



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[byron]

B S S =

BLUDDY
STUPID
SYSTEM

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[oldgit]

as this w/end is longest day.you will need to be moving around at a very late hour indeed to be travelling in dark.

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[h4nym]

If u do plan to punch the tide, do be aware of two draughts! Air draught at Hammersmith Bridge is as low as 3.70 meters, (12 ft) MHWS and it's the easiest thing in the world to run onto the mud immediately downstream of Richmond Lock at low water... take your time, Jim - remember the pleasure in boating is in the travel not the arrival!

Good luck and if u do go through Molesey lock (Hampton Court) we'll be BBQing about a mile upstream of there on your port bank... do stop by!

Hany

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[sad1]

Forget Hampton Court, its full of nutters from Feltham and East Molsey, moor up at Teddington (the nice side) and experience the delights of no less than 23 resturaunts and plenty moor bars and pubs. As well as 10 Estate Agents and enough hair salons to shake a stick at

See a man in The Boat Shop

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[h4nym]

Sad1

I moor at Teddington, at the Wharf... u talking about Teddington High Street for the 23 restaurants? There's only a couple of pubs anywhere near the lock!

Help me out here!

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[Bejasus]

BSS on the Broads isn't necesarry as it isn't being phased in until next year. Hire boats - 2004, large private - 2005, remainder - 2006. Holding tank is a requirement though.

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[sad1]

Ok 23 might have been the fine claret talking but those who moor at the wharf tend to stick to the Tide End and "The Wharf" there is the Royal Oak ( a great palce for young ladies) The Kings Head and Arms, a mixed crowd, Teddington Arms, new bar / pub that seems to drag the nutters form Molsey untill they get bored, but very good food and beer although dont get served by the blonde, a little slow. THEN if you dare cross the bridge, Red Pepers, big portions, low bill, ver y good indeed.

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[eddieperkins]

You do not need a BSs for the broads yet.
Regards,
Eddie

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[PGD]

if you need a good BSS surveyor look up Ian Haily, he's based in marlow, any marina would know of him, try Espar at Marlow, - Harleyford 01628 471368, he's known the manager their, Jason, since he was in short trousers !!!!!

hope this helps

Peter

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[byron]

Beware of nit pickers

The best BSS surveyor is Bill Kane. He is a boater himself and uses common sense unlike some twimble brained tadpoles who are nonsensical nit pickers. Choosing the right Surveyor is vitally important.

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