Targa 48 in Force 5 - What a boat!

[andis]

Re: price of T48

I think I saw the new t47 with a hardtop retailing for GBP 400k+vat, plus extras.

Looking into the manual of my second-hand T48, it appears that everything is extra with Fairline, appart from the helm and the base CAT engines.

A fully specified coloured-hull T48 in 2001 with the bigger Volvo engines must have retailed new for apx 350k+vat - possibly more.

Another useful contemporary comparison is the T43: with a reasonable (not complete) specification and the bigger engines it retails for apx 325k+vat.

However, neither the T47 or the T43 are 3 cabin boats, and thus they aim at a different target market; I could not consider them while shopping for a boat.

The smallest Fairline 3-cabin sportcruiser is now the T52, whose price new is really really expensive - apx 500k+vat.

 

[tcm]

Re: price of T48

i agree. I think fline have slightly or significantly lost their market direcetion. It used to do no-nonense crewable/family boaty boats at a decent price and smart styling, with options for med numpties (like me) wanting it a bit Merc-ified with air and leather.

These days their bigger boats have poor crew space and slightly notquiteright living area with galley that forgets it is a big boat hence functional, not part of the main boat, qv 74.

t48 wise, the ultimate sportscrusiser was a boaty speedy weekend cottage. Even with four kids, no prob. So what on earth is the stupid pastel-shaded wood and multi-level floor in the t52 at half a blimmin million? The nearly-sports boat but not-charter-boat 62? I reckon that both these boats have sold less in a year than the t48 sold in a quarter. The V58 must be wiping the floor with both these ,and quite right too.

Of course - qv Deleted User, the crappy t48 execution needed sorting - but there is no doubt that they need a just-sub-50 foot boat for uk and med punters - so why not sort out the flippin t48 with 3 cabins instead of get a new piece of paper and make a poor mans 2-cabin carmargue - as with the t47. The t52 is actually a SMALLER main cabin that the t52! Who's paying for the flippin boat ? Not anyone in those mid cabins , i bet. Very poor thinking, very poor show.

edit: oh and sory for being a bit iffy, you have a gereat boat really. Both Deleted User and self are ex-owners who know they are great seaboats, good-looking but could be so much better on interior detail, a weakness of many brit-built boats whereas germans etc are finicky with showers and woodwork rather than saying, yep - the main thing is that it floats and goes - cos at this loot it should be a bit better, or a lot better.

 

[Deleted User YDKXO]

Re: price of T48

I think they've been reading David Marsh's boat tests too avidly. He goes on about boats 'breathing easily' by which he means they've got nothing in them. Wot about the new Squaddie 52 when it came out - only 2 cabins? Fairline's customers must be real Billy No Mates
Fairline have a habit of shooting them selves in the foot. Their marketing tactics seem to be to find a successful design that sells well and replace it with something glitzier and much more expensive assuming that they can screw the punter for more money when he wants to replace his boat but most punters are not that stupid. Remember the Turbo 36, one of Fairline's most successful models, replaced by the ghastly and ludicrously pricey 43AC which nobody bought because the Sealine 410/F43 was better and a lot cheaper. Same with the T48. Who's going to replace a boat worth perhaps £250k with the T52 that is pretty much the same costing north of £500k?

 

[david_e]

Re: price of T48

For that sort of dosh you could get two brand new, really good, 47 ft saily boats that would sniff at a force 5, time and time again

 

[andis]

Re: price of T48

Mind you, motorboats in a force 5/6 at 8 knots are not bad either...