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[mtomison]

I watch the pages most weeks and am amazed at some of the rudeness and arrogance of some of the replies. When one analyses the replies one has to wonder why. Certain regulars seem to specialise in this area.

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[VicS]

I agree with you and have been known to take people to task over this especially if they have responded in such a manner to a question from a new user.

It does however get somewhat frustrating to see the same question over and over again when a search would have found the previous discussions.

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[Vara]

Suggest you put in "self steering" or "autohelm" into search over the last month and see why people who are relatively new to the forum ask FAQs ad nauseam.
I'ts easier to ask the question be told you are an idiot and then be directed to correct thread.

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[Minnie_Mouse]

I'm new to this site, and I have to say I am amazed at the attitudes of many of the regulars. Some seem to take this all too seriously. I have even seen a terrible personal attack on another new user, which not only slatted him but tried to cause detriment to his business.

I thought this would be fun to join in on the forums.

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[Moose]

He shouldn't be advertising his business on here, that is made clear in the T's and C's of the site.

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[sailorman]

"Slatted"
r these seats, a fence,louvers perhaps.
who is he having a "go" @ ?.
must go, got to polish the boat
chers

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[Minnie_Mouse]

He wasn't. If you read through the thread. Someone else refered to his bio and highlighted the name of his business, to have a go at him.

I believe you were just on the thread making a response to me earlier. Evening on Hamble River

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[Minnie_Mouse]

Sorry a slight spelling error, it should be slated instead of slatted. My Tipping is getting por..... He wasn't having a go at anyone, they were having a go at him when he tried to back out of what was to become a major debate.

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[MainlySteam]

Am familiar with the thread - seems to me that a couple of new users are super sensitive and super critical of most others who have been here a while and generally been used to throwing words loosely at each other but mature enough to generally take it all in good heart, or get over it, as friends do. You may find that is one of the strengths of these forums.

My suggestion is, as in most of life, if you do not like getting knocked back, to become one of the friends before you start throwing loose words among them too.

John


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[ongolo]

What the hell, its only letters on a bloody sreen showering us with radiation in the process.

My opinion, is 10% is excellent information, 1% relevant to my interests. The rest is often amusing or irritating.

I have observed that people in different parts of the world, due to culture and circumstance have a different outlook on many things. This different outlook seems to be problem to some.

Living in what has been called by a Magistrate friend of mine "a robust society", we shoot things then we eat them, we hunt we have guns. Its as normal as having a ballpoint pen, mentioning gun ownership to a german from germany, one is classified as a criminal because only criminals have guns.

That is an coarse example, but I remember the injector threat where one replied in Capital letters DO NOT DO THAT. It depends who you are and where you are, it is done all the time.

People in Germany, Austria and Switzerland all speak German (sort of) but the mentality of the three Nations is different. So, how can anybody expect guys in NZ,OZ, Canada, Namibia (me), ZA or any part of Europe have the same opinion on a topic such as insurance? My life insurance is a 9mmParabellum loaded with tracers and not a policy that pays out after I am dead. (have I done it again? ))

Regards Ongolo Esq. (infamous)

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[Guest]

True but also ...

There are a few groups on the forum that actually appear to be at each others throats / slagging off etc. - but in fact are friends and sometimes fail to see what others interpret.

There are times when a post will hit a sore spot ...... and then hackles rise .... unfortunately we are in a real world and these forums are for human response .... sometimes not the most tactful - I for one have been guilty of one or two 'misdemeanours .....'

Read and move on to next post - ignore the slags and gain immense value from the forums ..... a lot of info that would take years to pull together without .....


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[jimbouy]

I was a new user late summer last year.

Over all its a great forum. lots of nice people, a few jokers and a tiny number of idiots.

Ignore the bad stuff and enjoy the good. If a thread turns nasty, "walk" away.

Don't be put off. Enjoy.

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[kilkerr1]

Hear hear.

Don't think I've ever seen a new user slagged off for asking a question which has been asked for the hundredth time, though some answerers can be a tad abrupt. When I was a new user last year I asked all the most obvious questions - all posted squillions of times before - but got loads of useful and encouraging replies. As jimbuoy says, the majority are a good bunch, with the odd eejit thrown in. Arguments develop sometimes, but these seem to get settled. If users don't follow the T&Cs they will get a grilling - and that's fair enough. But there's always a good dose of good natured banter. Some moan about irrelevant stuff - more japing and silliness on Scuttlebutt than on PBO - but if you're not into it, don't read it. My work days would certainly be gloomier without it and some of the advice I've received has been invaluable. Just don't take the small nasty bits too seriously.

Right, off to get ready for a weekend pottering around the Muddy medway and wibbling (technical term...) around the Thames Estuary. Enjoy and fair winds to all.

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[FullCircle]

Yep, had it done to me when I was a new user - I huffed for about an hour, considered it all, and then went to the pub.
Someone on here (forget who, sorry) has a byeline that says that all advice is worth exactly what you paid for it. So true.
Be picky, and then wonder at the variety here. For inst, I am impoverished 23ft East Coaster crawling round creeks. Other end of scale are those with sat comms thru their lap top in some sparkling hot place with a 50ft liveaboard. Its just very diverse.
I for one would not like the invasion of PCness, or perpetual enforced sameness. I get that out there in real life.

Jim


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[Aardee]

Hi Minnie,

While I agree that the treatment of that individual was a little "robust" (I should know, I joined in), he did , at the start of the thread, refer to ALL sailors as arrogant, not a great way for a new user to make friends.

The only time I'll "have a go" at someone is if they take a perfectly reasonable thread (say, about how busy the Hamble gets) and try to turn it into a "Raggie vs MoBo" slanging match.

We have to share the seas with each other, so lets try to do it in a friendly manner.

Cheers,

Graham.

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[mickshep]

Hi Amberley. Firstly, welcome to the Forum. As one of the regulars who replied to the thread you mention in a rather less than sympathetic manner I would like to clarify my reasons for doing so.
The new poster concerned joined a thread by labeling all sailors as arrogant, a statement that is as untrue as the other examples listed by myself. Over the time I have been on these forums there has been on a number of occasions attempts to stir up the age old chestnut of Raggies v Mobos, a myth perpetuated by a few with nothing better to do.
There are arrogant people in all walks of life including sailing/motor boating, but to attempt to base a persons attitudes on their chosen mode of transport is patently stupid and offensive. As a new poster who sailed, how would you have felt if the 1st post you read labeled you and all like you as arrogant with no thought for anyone else?
With regard to his business interest, Glass houses and throwing stones comes to mind. I hope you find the forums as usefull and generally good natured as I have and are not put off by this incident.
Regards, Mike. (A Raggie who likes Mobo's)

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[BrianJ]

Mike,
Dont worry about it.. most of us are good friends.. gee , I'm on the other side of the world and have great fun " having a shot" at the POMS.. yet I get plenty back.. and all in good fun.
I even have to ask someone to translate what some of our Scottish sailors are saying ( again all in good fun) and get some funny answers.

Its like we are all in a pub drinking COLD beer.. we dont all agree with each other all the time.. so relax.. this is a great BB and we want you to be part of it.. help welcome new people and make them feel at ease.

Some people may give you the S><><><< s .. but dont read their posts.. be selective.

I have made some solid friends on the BB.. you can also.
BrianJ

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[cameronke]

Cold BEER BrianJ?

Says Cameron taking the bait!

Oops off we go, retire to bunker, QED

Regards

Cameron ;-)

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[l'escargot]

I think people run into problems when they think that they can influence views of others or exert some sort of control over the forums. If you like something - join in, if you don't - ignore it. Analysing or taking exception is a waste of time. You wouldn't choose to continue to talk to the bore at the bar, why expect it to be any different on here?

There are also vaguely accepted unwritten conventions, some may say that this PBO forum is for technical matters and complaints/discussions are more suited to Scuttlebutt, and ignoring these can incur the wrath of certain people.

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[BrianJ]

Cameron,

Is there any other way to drink it ????he he he he
BrianJ

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