Sunk Beacon - a further follow up from Trinity House

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Please find below another e-mail from Trinity House with the question that I posed asking if a donation fund could be used to restore the Sunk Beacon. It would seem again that the advances in electronic positioning and navigation are reducing the visual aids available to small craft users.
I must comment that I think that Trinity House have been very good in the correspondance, and although I do not support their position, I can at least understand it.

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My reply to the original reply:

Dear Mr XXXXX,
thank you for taking the trouble to reply. As I (and most East Coasters)
surmised, it is not to be replaced, which is correct if you target your
resource at commercial only traffic, but does not seek to aid the small
craft plying the swatchways.
Could you give some indication of cost to replace this mark, as you must
have estimates to have precluded its restoration from your work plans. If
the leisure community could raise the required sum, would Trinity House
consider the restoration? After all, it seems as it only needs doing every
50 years or so....


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Return e-mail from Trinity House:

Thank you for your recent e-mail re costs associated with re-instatement of the SW Sunk beacon.

We have not costed the replacement of the structure because, as previously explained, it was never our structure and we do not consider it to be required for general navigation.

However, we have recently been considering the future of the East and West Blacktail Lighthouses, which are our structures and which are also in the Thames Estuary, and the costs that might be associated with their replacement. Whilst they are more substantial structures than would probably be necessary if someone were prepared to reconstruct the SW Sunk, they do serve to give an indication of the order of costs involved. It is estimated that replacement of these Lighthouses would probably cost in the order of £170,000, although this would also include the costs of the lights etc required. A substantial part of the estimated cost relates to the cost of mobilising and deploying a suitable jack up vessel / barge to the site.

If it was possible to interest someone to fund the building of a replacement structure, then the on-going maintenance of the structure would need to be addressed, along with safe access for maintenance, as well as issues such as liability insurance etc. The structure would also require consent under section 34 of the Coast Protection Act 1949. Consents are currently administered by the Marine Consents and Environment Unit (further information can be obtained from their website www.mceu.gov.uk). As the site also lies within the limits of the Port of London Authority, a Works Licence from them may also be required.
 
Wheras a large boat or small ship run aground there, will not need all these permissions and liability insurance.

Maybe we have found a solution to what to do with obsolete GRP boats !
 
Jim,

I agree... its a pragmatic, but pleasantly worded response perhaps gently pointing out the realities of re-establishing such a structure...

Also agree, that its a very important aid to pleasure boat navigation in the Estuary, but not for shipping, so can also see their point of view...

Shame, but its a balancing act for budgets in the real world I guess..... and credit to Trinity house for handling your enquiries in a courteous and sensible manner
 
I would suggest this is a bit of a cop out.

The ease of sinking a simple caisson with the aid of a bit of compressed air to power the lift pump is well within the capabilities of most offshore engineering companies.

When you think that there must be over ten thousand yachts that use these areas each year and are local to the estuary all we need to do is persuade everyone to cough up a tenner a year and I reckon we'd be able to do a major mark each year and have it properly maintained

There again seeing how difficult it is to get people to part with their hard-earned squids perhaps that's a pipe dream /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
Their position seems fair. Remember the hue and cry when it was mooted that leisure vessels should pay light dues? We don't want to go there.

In more local environments the channel buoys and withies are provided by local clubs and marinas. It's hard to see who or how a mid estuary nav mark would be funded. Cheaper to buy another GPS.
 
It occurs to me that it may be time that the Trinity House terms of reference are reviewed. In eighteen months time we will be expected to pay a significant amount of extra tax on our fuel. The tax on road fuel was originally a revenure-raising intiative to pay for the upkeep of the road network. Even today a (small and reducing) proportion of that revenue is used for the upkeep of the roads.
Applying the principle of no taxation without representation (kind of) should we not be pressuring the government to invest some of the revenue raised in projects which benefit the taxpayers? Whilst it is probably asking too much to get them to build municipal marinas because it's the sort of pragmatic investment adopted by "Johnny Foreigner" and we wouldn't want that. However it is not asking too much to get them to increase Trinity House funding and extend their terms of reference to maintain key navigational marks for small boat users.
Now that the campaign for red diesel is effectively lost - this is the campaign that we should be fighting. There is probably some EU precedent that could be cited to support it.
 
Worse than not having the beacon, is that there is possibly dangerous wreckage around where it used to be. So, it is now risky to use the cross-Sunk route even though GPS makes the navigation staightforward.

Is no authority responsible for clearing this up? Presumably some authority erected it in the first place.

Tony
 
If there really is a case for making this route would not a buoy be better? At least it could then be moved if the channel (what is left of it) moves. Also, presumably, cheaper.

Mind you it is so shallow there these days wouldn't people prefer the next one up?
 
Jim,

Is it possible to turn this around slightly and provide a case for the remnants of the beacon to be marked.

If you could provide to Trinity a reliable estimation of boats from the Crouch using that route (possibly emphasising visitors from Holland etc who may be unaware of the obstruction) they may just feel pressurised into providing an isolated danger mark.

Long shot, but..............


Paul.
 
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