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Got hired to sea trial a boat for our local brokers customer today, never been on one before twas a Bayliner 4588 flybridge 45ft (or 13.7m)

Never seen a Bayliner flybridge before, as you would expect for an American boat pretty spacious, apart from small cockpit. This was sacrificial to the main cabin which had the usual L shaped settee then the galley to port with a couple of steps to stb leading up to the inner helm which was the full width of the boat, save for the narrow side decks of course.

Even had an inner door to the flybridge on a 45 footer. Lots of domestic equipment
netyrally, washing machine etc. Massive dashboard with more switches then most I've seen. Smallish engines (twin 220hp) so semi dis hull. Trying it again tomorrow with clean hull so see if we can improve on the 13knts from today.

Biggest drawback I thought was first 50% of side decks next to huge cabin windows were very narrow with no toe rail (little return) and no seaward railings.
Anyone een on one of these?

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Have seen something similar for sale on web quite a while ago.Seemed to be lot of boat for money.Allegedly build quality is far better than their smaller stuff.
Them engines appear curiously small esp.considering it is a US boat.To have fitted those small lumps would have thought the original owner had a specific job in mind,mebbe canal or river work.
Still for some of us 12 knots is very exciting indeed./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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it's here
see what you mean!
mean walk ways for side decks
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Re:Akshully looks quite OK.NM.

looks ok but what about the build - paper tiger? /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

peter

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Re:Akshully looks quite OK.NM.

Nothing wrong with Bayliners, ok built to a price but aren't all boats? It's just that their price is generally much lower than the competition with less of a differential in quality.

They must have got something right with the numbers of boats they sell.

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Re:Akshully looks quite OK.NM.

The bigger Bayliners are a different kettle of fish to the smaller stuff. Built in a different factory, these days they are called "Meridian Yachts" to differentiate further.

Their poor reputation for hull problems only applies to a few, specific, smaller models from the 80's, and even then, only some model years were affected.

dv.

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All inclusive charter terms

I see that yacht charter fee specifically includes the use of salt and pepper. Nice touch that, very generous. I notice there's no mention of ketchup, so beware they must mark the bottle and it gets added onto the bill at the end :-)
 
Bayliner have built Flybridge boats for eons. They used to build them down to about 24ft but their smallest is now the 28. They built a motoryacht range in the 80's and early 90's which started at around 30ft and went up to the 4588 you have seen.

I don't think Bayliner have ever had a problem with their hulls. They are well built in that respect. I think their poor reputation came from the general quality of the fixture and fittings and the way the rest of the boat was put together during the 80's. I doubt this applies to the motoryachts but mostly the cuddys and sportscruisers. Having said that you pay your money and take your choice and 80's and 90's Bayliners are excellent value secondhand, from the smallest right up to the 4588.

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There was one for sale a few years back at St Kats. I always quite fancied it, had the look of a boat twice its size. I would have gone for it but it was too high for the Thames.

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<<6 days 6 nights>>

charter methinks rather than <<does US $4,071 seem cheap to buy a boat >>

good try though

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I looked at one of these for sale many years ago in Port Solent. I was quite taken by the amount of boat for the money particularly the pilot house but luckily I came to my senses. However good or bad they are, they're going to be difficult to sell on unless they're at giveaway money

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We saw one of these for sale in Holland last year. Bit unloved but nothing that a weeks hard word wouldn't have taken care of and that one had 300hp Hinos so a much better bet. Loads of boat for the money AND it was up for €165000 not the £185000 thats being asked for your one!

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what makes you think its up for £185k victor?

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Hello Clive - I've rather fancied for a long time either the 4550 or 4788 pilothouse. They are huge boats for the money but one thing that puts me off is the ho-hum decor, tho' the light oak is not too bad. They would make superb liveaboards. We don't see many in this part of the US, but they are very popular on the Pacific side. Hino diesels are probably the most common power units, giving semi-displacement speeds, but 370 Cummins are also fitted.

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