Strait of Messina

Nostrodamus

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For future reference we came through the Strait of Messina this morning and the following may help others.

We stayed overnight in Scilla which I have to say is totally stunning. You can moor to buoys which are about 30 euros but it does include a water taxi. We anchored in rock and weed next to the minute harbour but we did have good holding. During the night there was no wind but a very large and roly swell came in from different angles making sleeping almost impossible. I am told it is not always like this.

The rolling was so bad we set off into the straits with 2 hours of foul tide left. Thanks to another forum member we were told to call up the VTS on ch 13 who take details and log your transit. Apparently there can be a fine of 2000 euros for not contacting them. We were told to stay 500m from the coast and monitor the radio.

We were travelling North to south along the coast of Italy rather than Sicily so oncoming traffic would be nearest to us.

From the moment we left Scilla we had to continually weave in and out of small one man fishing boats towing lines behind them.

Although we were against a foul tide we had speeds of 7.5 knots in some places but also were hovering around one knot for nearly an hour as we passed the ferry port. The ferries take no prisoners and in keeping out of there way we often found ourselves going backwards.

You continually have to watch your ground track as sometimes it will take you into shore and others well off shore. These currents are quiet strong.

There are back eddies all over and then spots of complete oily calm. We did not see any of the whirlpools though.

The wind went from nothing to 20 knots and then nothing again several times so beware if you have the sails up.

We also found a lot of rubbish floating around and narrowly missed half a tree.

Having said all that we reached our destination safely through the straits with no major problems. At the wrong time those waters look like they could eat boats but at the right time you can fly through.

Just remember to report to VTS and if you have AIS they Will call you.

Hope this helps somebody
 
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Very different from my experience. Not sure you have to call VTS - nothing on the site that shows the lanes or in the pilots to suggest that. Anyway, went south to north and wondered what all the fuss was about. no noticeable current but right about the fishing boats, although it was early in the season and not many about. Took on fuel at the pier on the Sicily side which was exposed and a bit bouncy. Only other bit of excitement was a free diver popping up close by at one point.
 
Top tip about the VTS. Wonder how long that has been in force? Coupla times I did that trip, some years ago, wasn't a requirement I knew about....mebbe just got away with it!

Do remember getting stiffed for 200 euros for one night in Palermo marina, 40 foot cat. Worst showers ever, too.

Do like that 24 hour a day weather forecast on (I think) VHF 68.

Enjoy your cruise! CS
 
Try it in Sword fishing session and you will have about 20 of these mothers charging all over the show, with no regard for you, or anything else in the way.

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The guy up top is on the helm, the guy out front is the harpoon guy.
 
..We were travelling North to south along the coast of Italy rather than Sicily so oncoming traffic would be nearest to us...

Very similar trip from Bagnara Calabra about 3 weeks ago, except we tried to get the tide right ;) On the mainland side we had consistent boat speed of around 6 kts, SOG varying between 4.5 and 9; the COG was kicking 30 degrees off track in a heartbeat. We crossed over at the 'roundabout' then took foul current on the island shore all the way to Taormina, probably would have done better crossing at the S end of the TSS. Didnt call up VTS because I could see nothing on their website that said it was a requirement, being under 45m. Stayed out of the TSS or obeyed its crossing rules all the way, monitored 16 and heard no calls.

Its the Middle Sea Race in a few weeks, I wonder what they use for tidal flows? Is there a 'winning tides' for Messina?

btw - the swordfish boats are apparently called 'passarelle', now is that chicken or egg ?? To put the photo in perspective, the mast is typically 30m or so and the front part 45m
 
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We are half way down the Italian side. We are saying goodbye to "Cardo" who we have been sailing with for the last couple of months. He is deserting to Greece. we will stay in Sicily (we love the family sized pizzas the size of car tyres) We will cross past the TSS tomorrow when we can get the tides right although it won't be as strong. We had to leave and take the foul tide this morning.. we were fed up of sleeping on the ceiling.
We are going down to Taormina tomorrow. It looks as if there is plenty of anchorage space down there. Did you anchor?
 
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We are half way down the Italian side but will cross past the TSS tomorrow when we can get the tides right although it won't be as strong. We had to leave and take the foul tide this morning.. we were fed up of sleeping on the ceiling.
We are going down to Taormina tomorrow. Itlooks as if there is plenty of anchorage space down there. Did you anchor?

Hi Nostro, yes we anchored at Taormina in 7-8m fairly close in to the beach. We arrived a NE 4-5 and tucked in around the corner, apparently there can be significant swell at times in Taormina presumably when the wind is E-S somewhere nearby. Somewhat farther on is Catania where apparently you can anchor inside the mole in a currently undeveloped area, check it out on Google maps. We're still in Siracusa so maybe see you in a day or three.

Remember the mooring bouys at Taormina are NOT free, theres a link from JimBs site, but they are in the most protected area.
 
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Going trough from North to South we had no problems. Saw some whirlpools, lots of ferry´s.

Some time later, in November, we sailed from Aci Trezza ( Sicily ) to Saline Ionici. Saw whales.
I had it timed perfectly, with the short days in November, we arrived in front of Saline Ionici exactly at dawn. Fishermen ware standing knee deep in the entrance waving with flash lights.
Silted.

So we went searching for Bova marina.
This was 2001, I had a hand-held GPS, a compass, depth sounder and a map.
Just reading the small screen of the gps was almost impossible.
Could not find the entrance of Bova marina in the dark, then came the latest weather forecast by VHF promising NO 8.
Next safe place was about 50 miles so I decided to turn and go North to Reggio Calabria, That place would at least be lit at night.
So we went trough the strait again, not quite trough the narrowest point, but man, what a whirling of shipping. A building gale against us, dark, and lots of lights.
Thrilling passage.
Made it safe into Reggio, we had to stay 17 days in that **** harbour before we had a less than force 6 forecast.
Arrived on Corfu on Christmas evening.

I am a bit more careful with sailing in winter now.
 
Very similar trip from Bagnara Calabra about 3 weeks ago, except we tried to get the tide right ;) On the mainland side we had consistent boat speed of around 6 kts, SOG varying between 4.5 and 9; the COG was kicking 30 degrees off track in a heartbeat. We crossed over at the 'roundabout' then took foul current on the island shore all the way to Taormina, probably would have done better crossing at the S end of the TSS. Didnt call up VTS because I could see nothing on their website that said it was a requirement, being under 45m. Stayed out of the TSS or obeyed its crossing rules all the way, monitored 16 and heard no calls.

Its the Middle Sea Race in a few weeks, I wonder what they use for tidal flows? Is there a 'winning tides' for Messina?

btw - the swordfish boats are apparently called 'passarelle', now is that chicken or egg ?? To put the photo in perspective, the mast is typically 30m or so and the front part 45m

I went south to north back in July and we didn't call VTS or get interrogated by them; the ferries really don't hang about and playing dodgems with them with 4kts of tide up your bum isn't fun. It was over quickly though and our best SOG was 12.1kts(6.5kts STW) just as we passed the 'roundabout'! :D I wanted to go through it but the skipper chickened out and told me to steer around. ;)
 
Try it in Sword fishing session and you will have about 20 of these mothers charging all over the show, with no regard for you, or anything else in the way.

wmeb2c.jpg


The guy up top is on the helm, the guy out front is the harpoon guy.

That must make marinas expensive...
 
Hi Nostro, yes we anchored at Taormina in 7-8m fairly close in to the beach. We arrived a NE 4-5 and tucked in around the corner, apparently there can be significant swell at times in Taormina presumably when the wind is E-S somewhere nearby. Somewhat farther on is Catania where apparently you can anchor inside the mole in a currently undeveloped area, check it out on Google maps. We're still in Siracusa so maybe see you in a day or three.

Remember the mooring bouys at Taormina are NOT free, theres a link from JimBs site, but they are in the most protected area.

Thanks Robbie, we want to spend a couple of days in Siracusa and I believe there is a good anchorage there. Dependant on wind and weather we will be down there sometime in the next week.
 
Just remember to report to VTS and if you have AIS they Will call you.
Good warning Nostro

From http://jimbsail.info/mediterranean/west-med/sicily-malta-s-italy
The Messina straits contain a Traffic Separation Scheme (TSS) with a 'roundabout' system to handle the cross straits ferry traffic. Pleasure vessels should plan routes to stay outside the TSS, but if it is necesssary to enter, they must report their plan to the Coast Guard, Ch 10 or 16. Tidal currents flow through the straits, noted in ancient times for the whirlpools off Scylla and Charibdis. They're trivial compared to the tidal currents and eddies of N Brittany.

On the site the TSS link is http://www.capitaneriediporto.it/servizi/documents/manualivts/manualeutentemessina_inglese.pdf

And I've had several reports of fines from people who infringed the TSS without informing the traffic master!
 
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Been through the straits both ways about a dozen times and never called VTS or been contacted by them, last time earlier this year. Wouldn't hurt to call them I suppose.
Have used Reggio quite a few times for fuel and a cheeky overnight. Not the prettiest place.
There's another handy spot for fuel about 2 miles north of Messina Harbour at Paradiso if your just passing straight through.
 
The Cruising Association published a warning to it's Mediterranean section members about this in the section newsletter several months ago. Timely information and warnings of this type are one of the many benefits of membership.
 
Been through loads of times, in daylight, at night and once during a huge storm, always stick very close to the mainland side, never worried about or been bothered by the current, seen the *******i - nasty if you were under sail in a light wind!

Just at dawn it must get cheaper or have lower pilotage requirements for ships, they hang about outside till daybreak, then its like the Wacky Races - I once saw a tanker, a container ship, a ferry and a large fishing boat all going abreast through the narrow bit (only 1 mile wide) - the ferry won.

Report to the authorities, really? there is no requirement for a small boat to even have a radio, so it is rather unlikely.

But I do agree that you have to watch out for Beppo floating about in a tiny boat hoping to catch a sprat.
 
Cripes, is barstar d such a an offensive word likely to offend the prim yachtsmen that it has to be censored?

What are you supposed to use, English has no other word.

It comes I believe from the 'bar sinister' a diagonal motive applied to ones family crest in the circumstance of being illegitimate.

Anyway the 'illigitimati' in the Messina straight are a right kunt
 
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