Storm Jib

[3reefs]

I have a nice orange storm jib. It has rings of Parrel beads to tie around a furled jib/genoa. To "bend" it on requires reaching up (not easy on a heaving foredeck) and, once set, the luff is still saggy.

Wondering about having it modified to go up luff groove on the Furlex, but wonder about the wisdom of fully unfurling the genoa/jib in rising winds or seas, in order to swap it for the storm sail.

Advice please.

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[bedouin]

For What it's worth ORC/RORC do not allow a Storm Jib to be hoist in a luff groove (or at least it must have an alternative method of fastening). Their rules are usually based on hard won experience, so there is likely to be a good reason.

I can think of a couple of problems:

(i) If you've got a big Genoa Up (#1 and #2) by the time the wind is strong enough to justify the storm jib there is no way you will be able to unfurl it all and drop it.

(ii) Luff groove devices tend to be more prone to jamming

I think the only truely satisfactory method is to have a dedicated inner forestay for the storm jib - but for most of us that is overkill. Other than that you just have to put with a bit of sag

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[vyv_cox]

Don't do it. Years ago I spent money on doing just the same but found, for the reasons that Bedouin gives, that I had wasted my money. My 140% genoa is a real handful to get down and flaked in the marina in a flat calm. On the only occasions when I did it at sea in adverse conditions it was a hell of a job.

I have now reverted to piston hanks, which I had to buy as the sailmaker had cut off the old ones, on a temporary inner forestay.

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[dickh]

That is exactly what I have done. I have a spare genoa halliard(wire) which I fix to a strong point abaft the mooring post, which also has a wire and turnbuckle to the keel. This is winched tight, the storm jib hanked on and hoisted with the spinnaker halliard. I also use a strop on the tack to keep it off the deck, and dedicated fairleads and sheets. Never used it in anger yet but appears to work well in lesser winds.

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[AlanPound]

http://www.coatesmarine.demon.co.uk/r18-99.htm and http://www.coatesmarine.demon.co.uk/r19-99.htm are useful references...

Alan

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[qsiv]

I am puzzled that an inner forestay is needed these days. If only a spectra luff was added it could be set up directly from a suitable halyard - if I can get the luff of my Code0 tight enough, I would have thought a smaller jib should be easy enough. We operate the code0 with about up to 4500Kg of luff tension in 14 knots (all spectra halyards and strops). Having said that I have a suitable inner stay (albeit it has a staysail rigged most of the time)!

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[pugwash]

What's a spectra luff please?

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[Jacket]

I've heard of a few people who use the setup you suggest. I think the main argument against it is the thought of trying to raise and lower a sail that's set flying in extreme conditions.

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[vyv_cox]

If you set a spare halyard with a wire strop to a point on the deck you can hoist the storm jib up it, avoiding the situation you describe.

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