Stainless jubilee clips

I don't know, but a lot of people say that they are good at handling returns of faulty goods. I've started to buy their stainless steel self tappers for use on board but it is to early to comment on how they fare.

So you could buy some clips, use them and report back to us here. Thanks .....

Edit - The reviews seem ok. A few comments about them being lightweight so there is only one way to find out.
 
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It's the same grade of stainless (A2, 304 or 18/8) as the ones in Force4 so yes. Marinesuperstore don't even specify the grade!
 
The Screwfix stainless worm drive clips are A2 or 304 or 18/8 Stainless with 8% nickel and 18% chromium. This is not marine grade.

Marine grade is A4 or 316 or 18/8/3 and has better resistance to chloride corrosion. This is achieved by adding 3% molybdenum to the 304 mix.

I'm sure the screwfix ones are reasonable quality, but you will need to decide if they are suitable for your application.
 
Alfie168 said:
The Screwfix stainless worm drive clips are A2 or 304 or 18/8 Stainless with 8% nickel and 18% chromium. This is not marine grade.

Marine grade is A4 or 316 or 18/8/3 and has better resistance to chloride corrosion. This is achieved by adding 3% molybdenum to the 304 mix.

I'm sure the screwfix ones are reasonable quality, but you will need to decide if they are suitable for your application.
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And yet I was unable to find anything better than A2 in the two main southern chandleries. There are two questions here, the first is "are they marine grade?" and the answer is no, not really, but then you probably won't use them outdoors anyway. The second is "are they worse than what you'd get at the chandlery?" and that's a no too, they are identical in spec to the chandlery ones.

Of course, the third question is "are they cheaper than the chandlers?" and we get a third no. They come in packs of 10 and still cost more individually than Force4 sell them for.
 
I have a wide selection from screw fix and used them on small diameter [fuel lines], large {exhaust hoses} and also the {heating ducts} - not been a problem so far in 6+ yeas but not used outside.
 
pvb said:
I can't see any point in using anything other than A4 316 in a boat. The extra cost is immaterial.
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Availability is a good reason. If you can't get them when you need them the cost is irrelevant. Both will do the job unless your boat is full of sea water so it makes very little difference. If your boat is full of sea water then you need to invest in more than 316 stainless fittings!
 
lustyd said:
And yet I was unable to find anything better than A2 in the two main southern chandleries. There are two questions here, the first is "are they marine grade?" and the answer is no, not really, but then you probably won't use them outdoors anyway. The second is "are they worse than what you'd get at the chandlery?" and that's a no too, they are identical in spec to the chandlery ones.

Of course, the third question is "are they cheaper than the chandlers?" and we get a third no. They come in packs of 10 and still cost more individually than Force4 sell them for.
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I'm sure A2/304 gets onto many boats in some shape or form for availability and possibly cost reasons. I think you just have to keep an eye on it and perhaps replace it more frequently as it does corrode and can leave marks as a result. As you say the chandlers quite happily send it our way. That's not necessarily the best way though.
 
Alfie168 said:
The Screwfix stainless worm drive clips are A2 or 304 or 18/8 Stainless with 8% nickel and 18% chromium. This is not marine grade.

Marine grade is A4 or 316 or 18/8/3 and has better resistance to chloride corrosion. This is achieved by adding 3% molybdenum to the 304 mix.

I'm sure the screwfix ones are reasonable quality, but you will need to decide if they are suitable for your application.
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A2 is absolutely fine for above the waterline. It is certainly consider to be marine grade. 316 is only vital below the waterline. This is from real world experience over too many years.
 
I bought some expensive Chinese m6 x50mm socket cap screws the other day from Amazon as I needed them delivered this weekend. Supposedly A2 but they shone like bright zinc plated. Very strange. A magnet wouldn't pick them up so I guess they are at least stainless. The heads were smaller than normal and the hex socket was off centre. Not for a critical application thankfully.

They were not even cheap to buy, though I accepted part was delivery costs. I'm find that a lot these days though especially on Amazon. Low quality Chinese being more expensive than quality European eg: Italian made Beta is less than non-chromed one by Xianggujie Amazon.co.uk : Single Open End Spanner 21mm Needless to say most of the unbranded stuff you buy in Screwfix is from China so these days you may well be able to shop around for better quality for less money.
 
I can't for the life of me understand why you're comparing low quality Chinese ones with high quality European ones. Why not compare high or low quality from both regions? The answer, of course, is that then there'd be no difference.
 
lustyd said:
I can't for the life of me understand why you're comparing low quality Chinese ones with high quality European ones. Why not compare high or low quality from both regions? The answer, of course, is that then there'd be no difference.
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Because they're now the same price, in fact the low quality chinese is more expensive than the high quality european as per the example I gave and I keep seeing this. It used to be that cheap quality meant cheap price but something is happening. Either Chinese manufacturer costs have risen or I think more likely now that most European manufacturers have gone out of business the chinese (now selling direct from china) or European sellers of chinese can put their prices up and we're largely not noticing. Some items are now just about only available from China so they have no competition, of course they can then raise their prices. Problem for European manufacturers is if someone thinks they can start up making it here again the chinese can simply reduce the price back down and put them out of business again.

A more like for like tool comparison to the £17 chinese open spanner is this Gedore one (I believe still made in Germany) for £9 Gedore 894 Single Open Ended Spanner 13/16″ AF 4010886658079 | eBay I notice the Chinese sellers flood ebay and amazon with hundreds of listings of the same product which somewhat hides the european ones. Can't blame them for this of course, we just need to step up our game.
 
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You're confusing price with quality. There are Chinese sellers who will sell you things cheap and those that will add huge margins because they realise you equate expensive with better. This is the same in Europe, where low quality will almost always be expensive regardless. My point was that you could just as easily have compared a poor quality EU part with a high quality Chinese part - it would have been just as meaningless because country of origin and qiality are completely different things, as are sale price and country of origin.

The reason Chinese parts appear more expensive all of a sudden is that the UK government changed our laws and so you're now paying import duty and VAT where before you were avoiding taxes. Again, that's not really anything to do with China.
 
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