St Kats - and London marinas - Not exactly customer focussed.

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Aye therein lies the rub - - - wonder if Boris knows his city is not now welcoming waterborne visitors ?

why would he, or anyone else care?

St Kat will definitely still accept visitors -big regattas or significant yachtspeople starting or ending something.

And they are not saying never, they are just saying that space will be very restricted. I think that with some negotiation, they will still accept some club visits rafted up in the west basin. I don't think they want to turn everyone away, but they do need to keep all the berths full. I'm trying to keep my 'balanced' hat on, and as the manager said to me, if they keep half the berths empty waiting for visitors and the weather is bad, well then, they don't get the visitors....
 
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I thought South Dock were still doing day and weekly rates though

South Dock had about 20 visitor berths but the lockkeeper told me management have or are going to let them to residents.
 

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I thought South Dock were still doing day and weekly rates though

South Dock had about 20 visitor berths but the lockkeeper told me management have or are going to let them to residents.

I've emailed South Dock. Hopefully I'll get a reply before I'm too old to read the email. :)
 

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I thought South Dock were still doing day and weekly rates though

South Dock had about 20 visitor berths but the lockkeeper told me management have or are going to let them to residents.
Southdock have never been that organised so far, in my experience. I've always managed to squeeze in somewhere for a month or so last minute, usually a gap somewhere. Liveaboard for more than a month rings loud bells though, as it's council run.
 

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If one really must visit London - personally I make it an aim in life not to - it's only an hour and a bit on the train from sensible, boat friendly places like Chichester & Portsmouth...
 

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If one really must visit London - personally I make it an aim in life not to - it's only an hour and a bit on the train from sensible, boat friendly places like Chichester & Portsmouth...

I'm beginning to think that may be the way we go about it which is a shame as it;s not quite the same really. But two days there, two days back, most of it probably motoring up a busy commercial river with an uncertain welcome at a disinterested marina at the end of it doesn't pop my cork

However, I've promised the girlies a trip to London this year <sigh> (and if I'm honest there's a couple of places I've been hankering after going for some tme, Science Museum and Greenwich being two of them)
 

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Erbas,

I expect you're aware but if you do go by train get the combined train & tube / oyster thingy deal, seemed a good thng when I had to visit my Mother in a London hospital.

If you haven't been to the Science & Greenwich museums ( & is Cutty Sark re-opened yet ? ) they are a must, in a perfect world with the girlies decoyed to the shops but without your credit cards ! :)
 

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Erbas,

I expect you're aware but if you do go by train get the combined train & tube / oyster thingy deal, seemed a good thng when I had to visit my Mother in a London hospital.

Good thought that, ta

If you haven't been to the Science & Greenwich museums ( & is Cutty Sark re-opened yet ? ) they are a must, in a perfect world with the girlies decoyed to the shops but without your credit cards ! :)

Havent bee to the Science Museum since the 1970s, never been to Greenwich at all. It is indeed the cunning plan to suggest to the dear lady wife and future daughter-in-law that perhaps a day of window shopping might be to their liking whilst me and the lad amuse ourselves elsewhere!
 

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If one really must visit London - personally I make it an aim in life not to - it's only an hour and a bit on the train from sensible, boat friendly places like Chichester & Portsmouth...

That is all very well if you only want to go for the day. However should you wish to spend some time there you are faced with huge accommodation bills compared to the cost of a few nights in a marina. Our bill at St Kats last year was £206 for 9 nights, peanuts compared with hotels and we had a great week in London.

Sadly it looks as if we can't plan to go again this year from all the comments on this and other threads. We did wonder about Limehouse or South Dock but it appears they are going down the same route. It is somewhat silly to say that they will fit you in at short notice, but going up the Thames is not something we would do without being sure we had a home to go to!!!
 

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I'm beginning to think that may be the way we go about it which is a shame as it;s not quite the same really. But two days there, two days back, most of it probably motoring up a busy commercial river with an uncertain welcome at a disinterested marina at the end of it doesn't pop my cork

However, I've promised the girlies a trip to London this year <sigh> (and if I'm honest there's a couple of places I've been hankering after going for some tme, Science Museum and Greenwich being two of them)

Bru - You know you have an open offer of accomodation...
 

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Good thought that, ta



Havent bee to the Science Museum since the 1970s, never been to Greenwich at all. It is indeed the cunning plan to suggest to the dear lady wife and future daughter-in-law that perhaps a day of window shopping might be to their liking whilst me and the lad amuse ourselves elsewhere!

Just one to note...both the places you mentions are quite some way apart....even with our wonderful integrated transport network its not a journey I would do by choice...
 

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Call me a bit of a romantic but I like to sail the Thames because I can. It has its own challenge, distinct architecture and more than enough history. I take exception to just sculling off with my tail between my legs when the powers at be start making things difficult.

We should fight for our right to sail. Once something is gone, it's very hard (if not impossible) to get it back again.

I'll grumble on.
 

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Call me a bit of a romantic but I like to sail the Thames because I can. It has its own challenge, distinct architecture and more than enough history. I take exception to just sculling off with my tail between my legs when the powers at be start making things difficult.

We should fight for our right to sail. Once something is gone, it's very hard (if not impossible) to get it back again.

I'll grumble on.
Amsterdam & Antwerpen still like visitors in boats
 

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What's Gallions Point like? It looks near a DLR stop.

It's also near a London City Airport stop. In fact, they go right overhead at less than 1000ft.


Fact is St Kats are bigging themselves up for large superyachts, and turfing out the dross.

If you want to book at Limehouse, you can, but they are used to people like us who book 7 boats, and turn up with 2, with little warning to cancel. It will be better if you don't get the excitable South African manager.....


PS: We loved our 4 nights in Limehouse last year, and bought an Oyster card for transport.
 
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Just one to note...both the places you mentions are quite some way apart....even with our wonderful integrated transport network its not a journey I would do by choice...
Bear in mind st kats, Southdock and to a lesser degree Limehouse have easy access to Thames clippers so anywhere from embankment to the dome on the river is easy.
 

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Call me a bit of a romantic but I like to sail the Thames because I can. It has its own challenge, distinct architecture and more than enough history. I take exception to just sculling off with my tail between my legs when the powers at be start making things difficult.

We should fight for our right to sail. Once something is gone, it's very hard (if not impossible) to get it back again.

I'll grumble on.

I agree. Very sad.

But it's a very flakey business prospect - especially when you have no land for yard services and the only money you can make is from people sitting in berths. It's the same at Limehouse.

I suppose most of us have done it. Booked into a berth and booked a restaurant and not turned up to either because it's blowing ol' boots.
 
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