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Well you tell me then? You suggested that sarabande had the right to impose his views
Spot the boat is no more!
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sorabain
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I feel that i've been terribly naive and never considered STB as advertising, and thought it was a genuine interest piece, although I did wonder who was paying for all these models.
On the matter of the models, unfortunately i've felt unable to have much of a look at the STB pictures whilst at work because of what seemed like the dominant presence of a swimsuit model. If anyone happened to look over my shoulder and saw my screen they would undoubtedly think i'm simply ogling the model rather than peering at the few deck fittings in the periphery. I can get away with looking at boats while at work, but apparent swimsuit pics would be beyond the line (and it's not like anyone would ask me what i'm looking at, it'd end up being spread behind my back as a "fact" that i'm looking at swimsuit pics which would likely escalate into it being soft porn or worse and severely damage my professional reputation).
I'm not sure how many others are in my position, but if the pics were more unambiguously boat-related you might get more people participating
On the matter of the models, unfortunately i've felt unable to have much of a look at the STB pictures whilst at work because of what seemed like the dominant presence of a swimsuit model. If anyone happened to look over my shoulder and saw my screen they would undoubtedly think i'm simply ogling the model rather than peering at the few deck fittings in the periphery. I can get away with looking at boats while at work, but apparent swimsuit pics would be beyond the line (and it's not like anyone would ask me what i'm looking at, it'd end up being spread behind my back as a "fact" that i'm looking at swimsuit pics which would likely escalate into it being soft porn or worse and severely damage my professional reputation).
I'm not sure how many others are in my position, but if the pics were more unambiguously boat-related you might get more people participating
wakeup
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Sarabande,
For clarity and the hard of understanding, are you stating that the female form will be removed/band from every advert in MBY henceforth as well as this forum?
Thanks
Wakeup
For clarity and the hard of understanding, are you stating that the female form will be removed/band from every advert in MBY henceforth as well as this forum?
Thanks
Wakeup
KevB
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Seems were getting only a few steps away from this..
Third mate
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Political correctness is associated with specific terms that are attempts to describe people in the most neutral and objective way possible. Sometimes these work, certainly "Asian" works better than specifically saying "Indian" or (the mostly pejorative, and considered racist) "****" when you don't know what country someone is from.
Unfortunately a lot of 'progressives' have also adopted political correctness widely; trying to justify censorship on the grounds that something is "offensive to 'name any group you like',"
To fight political correctness, you have to start young especially with regards to childrens TV ...Sesame Street is an especially insidious PC social engineering tool. Note the subtle promotion of multiculturalism. The show is even called Sesame "Street" instead of Sesame "Road", a dead giveaway, and the buildings look like some nappy-headed inner city housing project. That show even includes a bum living in a garbage can portrayed as a cute and cuddly muppet, instead of a pathetic layabout who has earned his fate.
If you catch your boys watching Teletubbies or any children watching Sesame Street, turn off the TV pronto and send them outside to play Cowboys and Indians...
I am now retiring to a darkened room to study my navel/naval/belly button :sleeping:
jrudge
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Well that seems fair to me, doubt the advertisers will appreciate it.
They are selling a lifestyle and like it or not that life style is people of both sexes in swimsuits on boats. In the summer we spend some 2 months on the boat and wear little other than swim suits. But this seems to much for MBY.
When in a hole stop digging, and they are in a massive hole here in my view.
The magazines have little in them that does not go round and round each year any way so they are in my view playing with fire.
They are selling a lifestyle and like it or not that life style is people of both sexes in swimsuits on boats. In the summer we spend some 2 months on the boat and wear little other than swim suits. But this seems to much for MBY.
When in a hole stop digging, and they are in a massive hole here in my view.
The magazines have little in them that does not go round and round each year any way so they are in my view playing with fire.
wakeup
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It will be interesting to see how Sarabande answers this as this debate was started as a result of the removal of STB in the name of equality and consistency with other industries.
Difficult to claim the moral high ground with regard to STB removing images of people when the advertisers I am sure won't tolerate that kind of rule. I bet MBY won't impose this nor even consider trying this with their advertisers.
Difficult to claim the moral high ground with regard to STB removing images of people when the advertisers I am sure won't tolerate that kind of rule. I bet MBY won't impose this nor even consider trying this with their advertisers.
KINGFISHER 9
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We live in a democracy .... someone organise an STB yes or no vote please!
SLC
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Exploitation of women? I'm rather confused by this one.
An agency receives a request to supply a pretty model for some photographic work on a boat, flies said model to a sunsoaked Island in the Indian ocean, puts her up in a hotel, she has photos taken and then flies home with money in the bank.
Said photos are then shown in an international publication giving her global exposure and possibly furthering her career and she's the one being exploited?
Ok, now I am even more confused by the argument.
An agency receives a request to supply a pretty model for some photographic work on a boat, flies said model to a sunsoaked Island in the Indian ocean, puts her up in a hotel, she has photos taken and then flies home with money in the bank.
Said photos are then shown in an international publication giving her global exposure and possibly furthering her career and she's the one being exploited?
Ok, now I am even more confused by the argument.
sorabain
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ah the tyranny of the majority
paultallett
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+1...... The shots just further the portfolio. This goes for male as well as female models.
If they don't like what is requested / fee offered, don't do the work.
Hugo_Andreae
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Just to clarify Spot the Boat has not (yet) been killed off and there is certainly no talk of banning images of women or men in swimsuits from advertising or editorial.
I realise our Spot the Boat competition isn't everyone's cup of tea. My own view is that it's a bit of fun to liven up Friday mornings but I'm happy to listen to others' opinions
The original idea was actually to poke fun at the manufacturers who take photos which barely seem to show any of the boat because it has been obscured by a model. However, I can see that by publishing them, we are in some ways perpetuating their existence.
If someone wants to set up a vote about whether to keep STB as is, ditch it entirely or continue it without any models in shot. I am more than happy to abide by it. It's not a big deal for me.
Hugo
I realise our Spot the Boat competition isn't everyone's cup of tea. My own view is that it's a bit of fun to liven up Friday mornings but I'm happy to listen to others' opinions
The original idea was actually to poke fun at the manufacturers who take photos which barely seem to show any of the boat because it has been obscured by a model. However, I can see that by publishing them, we are in some ways perpetuating their existence.
If someone wants to set up a vote about whether to keep STB as is, ditch it entirely or continue it without any models in shot. I am more than happy to abide by it. It's not a big deal for me.
Hugo
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Fantasie 19
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From now on all sexist words will be banned from the forum. We will no longer be allowed to refer to tying up to a buoy, cocking up a mooring manouvre or indeed, cruising. Backing and filling will be banned as will anything being at half mast. Going aground hard and fast will be a big no no as will referring to a boat as Bristol fashion. You have been warned
....don't even get me started on my mast crutch....
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wakeup
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OK thanks Hugo for that explanation.
I am a bit confused, I thought Saraband had already had STB band. SB do you wish to make a comment?
I am a bit confused, I thought Saraband had already had STB band. SB do you wish to make a comment?
Hugo_Andreae
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STB has not been banned. A thread in the lounge has been pulled which our moderators felt was inappropriate, nothing more.
epervier
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You can tell it's winter by the ten pages of nothing about a non event, jeeesus people get a grip. "don't feed the trolls" and they will die.
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It's terrible the way Katie Price has been exploited.
How many millions does she have in the bank these days?
How many millions does she have in the bank these days?
longjohnsilver
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As the OP I want to make clear I am not a troll, Richard Shead stated that STB was no more. He has now reversed that decision, as he states earlier in this thread.
Nigelpickin
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btw just noticed your signature, O / P boats I assume....? I was on both Onyx and Olympus in the 80's....
