Split pins in rigging screws wisdom

[MoodySabre]

In the past 8 years the split pins have been bent back out of harms way (or out of the way of causing harm). The mast was down recently and the riggers have left the split pins sticking out a bit. So either I need to tape them or bend them back a bit more. And the best idea is........?

Standing by for several ideas of which I may choose the easiest

 

[Spyro]

If they are in harms way or likely to cause any damage to sails or sheets Bend them back and tape. Why the dilema?

 

[pvb]

Always tape.

 

[VicS]

for normal engineering use the legs are just splayed 45° or so but in cotter pins in rigging curl them right back round the cotter and adjust the leg lengths to all but reach their own heads. It's then almost impossible for anything to catch on them, even if not taped.

 

[MoodySabre]

If they are in harms way or likely to cause any damage to sails or sheets Bend them back and tape. Why the dilema?

Well I thought that bending them back too far was frowned upon. I've never taped them in the past. Just trying to do the 'right thing' rather than just follow what was done before.

 

[MoodySabre]

Thanks Vic :encouragement:

 

[sailorman]

Well I thought that bending them back too far was frowned upon. I've never taped them in the past. Just trying to do the 'right thing' rather than just follow what was done before.

I always bend n tape, it saves patching yer spinnaker :nonchalance:

 

[Spyro]

Well I thought that bending them back too far was frowned upon. I've never taped them in the past. Just trying to do the 'right thing' rather than just follow what was done before.

I don't see a problem bending them too far. If you unbend them and use again that might be a worry.

 

[VicS]

Thanks Vic :encouragement:

I think I should have said clevis pins, not cotter pins. Cotter pins is what the Yanks call split pins IIRC)

 

[AntarcticPilot]

I use small bolts with nyloc nuts instead of split rings or pins. Works well, easy to undo and no sharp sticking out bits. Not my idea; my brother's!

 

[LittleSister]

Having far too many times gashed my hands on split pins, usually in the process of trying to bend them back out of harms way or straightening them out for removal, or finding the pins I have to hand are either just slightly too thick or too long or short for the job, I've got into the habit of securing rigging screws using monel seizing wire.

Is this a good idea or a bad idea?

 

[BabaYaga]

Seldén recommends bending the split pins open only circa 20 degrees apart if they are to be reused. Also to tape.

 

[JumbleDuck]

I think I should have said clevis pins, not cotter pins. Cotter pins is what the Yanks call split pins IIRC)

We put split pins through the end of clevis pins. They put cotter pins through the end of clevis pins. We use cotter pins to hol dthe cranks onto bicycles.

 

[JumbleDuck]

I use small bolts with nyloc nuts instead of split rings or pins. Works well, easy to undo and no sharp sticking out bits. Not my idea; my brother's!

Do you mean you replace the whole clevis pin with a nut and bolt, or do you use a weeny little bolt through the hole normally occupied by a split pin or ring?

 

[Len Ingalls]

These Velcro Cotter Pins work very well,& you can make them at home.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfh52cQT9OU

 

[Jaguar 25]

I've changed all my split pins for split rings, so nothing to catch the genoa.

I have heard that using split rings in rigging screws is frowned upon primarily because they can come off but I've never understood how this can happen and it has never happened to me (touch wood).

 

[AntarcticPilot]

Do you mean you replace the whole clevis pin with a nut and bolt, or do you use a weeny little bolt through the hole normally occupied by a split pin or ring?

It's the split pins that are replaced. The clevis pins remain unchanged.

 

[VicS]

We put split pins through the end of clevis pins. They put cotter pins through the end of clevis pins. We use cotter pins to hol dthe cranks onto bicycles.

How do they fix the pedals on their bikes


I know I an being silly. They drive automobiles. They dont ride bikes.


Modern bikes have cotterless cranks dont they ?

 

[Len Ingalls]

How do they fix the pedals on their bikes


I know I an being silly. They drive automobiles. They dont ride bikes.


Modern bikes have cotterless cranks dont they ?

And I will say it again...within <100 yrs "english speakers" will not be able to converse-across oceans-LOL

We hold bike cranks on with taper pins.
Cotter pins = split pins.
Roll pins are a tubular steel pin with a split lengthways-what do UK call them?
Tractor clips,or hairpin clips?
Hose clamps = jubilee clips?

Damn colonials we are-destroying the Queens English!! and the Yanks! beyond hope surely. Cheers /Len

 

[Orion Jim]

How do they fix the pedals on their bikes


I know I an being silly. They drive automobiles. They dont ride bikes.


Modern bikes have cotterless cranks dont they ?

We drive cars. We also drive bikes but they're built by Harley-Davidson. We are after all two nations divided by a common language.
In reality there are a great number of people who ride bicycles for pleasure, some as transportation, but not nearly the number seen in Britain.