southampton waters

[lanerboy]

if i was to go down the hamble to the end and turn right how far can you go

can you go up the river itchen???

can you go up southampton waters to the dead end upto horse head

never been in this area what restrictions are there if any

thanks shawn

 

[Firefly625]

if i was to go down the hamble to the end and turn right how far can you go

can you go up the river itchen???

can you go up southampton waters to the dead end upto horse head

never been in this area what restrictions are there if any

thanks shawn

Yes indeed you can go up the Itchen

& yes you can go right past the container port at the end and at high water get well past and it gets very nice & peaceful, certainly something to do once...

 

[gjgm]

if i was to go down the hamble to the end and turn right how far can you go

can you go up the river itchen???

can you go up southampton waters to the dead end upto horse head

never been in this area what restrictions are there if any

thanks shawn

Well, it is industrial..oh first, dont cut the corner out of the Hamble or you might have your first RNLI call !
Scenes to take in.. the power station, the refinery, the defunct ship building area, the cruise ship docks, the container docks and up the rivers you can also enjoy the metal scrap yards
Be aware the fast ferries are doing 35 knots plus so behave in you are in the main channel !
There are a few marinas .. you can always pay a few quid for a short stay and nose about.
10 knots (I think) north of the hythe ferry jetty, and watch out for the tugs and big ships turning.
The cruise ships usually set off about 5.00pm I think on Saturdays. Sometimes up to 4 of them in convoy which is quite fun perhaps.
It is a trip you can do anytime, but probably wont do more than once , as said. It is ok though just to see the big container ships and cruise ships perhaps. Main thing is that apart from the ferry wash, you can go full speed in calm water usually.
Alot of history, though much seems lost, around here from Spitfire building,the big flying boats, and just past Colshot history of the Schneider Trophy, and the Mulberry harbours were built for D Day.
I saw a wonderful photo of the flying boats in Southampton Water (that was the runway) from years ago. The planes were all tied up to swinging moorings, just like today you see sailing boats.

 

[epervier]

Not wishing to be a pendant, the limit is 6 kts north of Hythe pier to port and Weston shelf buoy to stb you won't get beyond Northam bridge up the Itchen, your air draft will probably stop you, no such problems up the Test, no cruise ship movements until Sunday 11th Nov,

Independance of the Seas arrive 0515 depart 1630,

Queen Victoria arrive 0630 depart 1630,

Adonia arrive 0630 depart 1630,

Saga Ruby arrive 0630 depart 1700,

details supplied by ABP and are subject to change without notice.

gjgm is dead right about red jets, they don't take prisoners, keep out of their way

 

[VicS]

Charts of the area :

The R. Hamble

Entrance to R. Hamble

Approaches to R. Hamble

Southampton water to Hythe

Southampton and R.Itchen

See also http://www.southamptonvts.co.uk/

 

[lanerboy]

Well, it is industrial..oh first, dont cut the corner out of the Hamble or you might have your first RNLI call !
Scenes to take in.. the power station, the refinery, the defunct ship building area, the cruise ship docks, the container docks and up the rivers you can also enjoy the metal scrap yards
Be aware the fast ferries are doing 35 knots plus so behave in you are in the main channel !
There are a few marinas .. you can always pay a few quid for a short stay and nose about.
10 knots (I think) north of the hythe ferry jetty, and watch out for the tugs and big ships turning.
The cruise ships usually set off about 5.00pm I think on Saturdays. Sometimes up to 4 of them in convoy which is quite fun perhaps.
It is a trip you can do anytime, but probably wont do more than once , as said. It is ok though just to see the big container ships and cruise ships perhaps. Main thing is that apart from the ferry wash, you can go full speed in calm water usually.
Alot of history, though much seems lost, around here from Spitfire building,the big flying boats, and just past Colshot history of the Schneider Trophy, and the Mulberry harbours were built for D Day.
I saw a wonderful photo of the flying boats in Southampton Water (that was the runway) from years ago. The planes were all tied up to swinging moorings, just like today you see sailing boats.

to me this is interesting to see so i will definatly have a wander on up there maybe even tomorrow i know some will say its boring or rubbish but everyone to their own

shame there will be no cruise ships till sunday but i may even venture up sunday morning for a look but got to be heading home by noon to collect the kids

sure it will be better than working no matter what i do or where i go

thanks for all the advise

 

[colingr]

Just a tip. Try to head up on a rising tide

You can get right up to the pub at the top of the Test but it does dry out. Same goes up the Itchen, you can get right up the top if you are careful.

Heading up the top of the Hamble is highly recommended as well. You can get a long way North of the motorway if you time it right.

Give Joka-Tu a wave as you pass Saxon Wharf

 

[gjgm]

Some cruise ships will almost certainly be there as it takes a day or so to turn them around.. they just wont be on their way out to sea.
The main navigation markers are of course for the big stuff, and there are some smaller nav markers 100metres or so either side, so there isnt any need to get in anyone big's way.HM vessel is often lurking about opposite Hythe, and pilot ships clearing rif raff out of the way , and dont forget the tugs have massive cables running onto the ships sometimes, so stay well clear of any working boats. Dont forget to keep a good look out behind you too !
Ashlett Creek is too tidal for a first venture, and up at the north end of the Water towards Elling Mill, it dries too, so just have an idea if the tide is coming in or out before going too shallow.
You can have a few hours pottering about if it is somewhere new, but with the Jurassic coast going to be on your doorstep next season....

 

[n.herring]

Some cruise ships will almost certainly be there as it takes a day or so to turn them around.. they just wont be on their way out to sea.
The main navigation markers are of course for the big stuff, and there are some smaller nav markers 100metres or so either side, so there isnt any need to get in anyone big's way.HM vessel is often lurking about opposite Hythe, and pilot ships clearing rif raff out of the way , and dont forget the tugs have massive cables running onto the ships sometimes, so stay well clear of any working boats. Dont forget to keep a good look out behind you too !
Ashlett Creek is too tidal for a first venture, and up at the north end of the Water towards Elling Mill, it dries too, so just have an idea if the tide is coming in or out before going too shallow.
You can have a few hours pottering about if it is somewhere new, but with the Jurassic coast going to be on your doorstep next season....

You will be very lucky to see a cruise ship, they usually turn around in less than 12 hours, in at 5 in the morning everyone off after breakfast, next lot on starting at 12pm and gone that afternoon. A very efficient operation and they dont earn money tied up in Southampton.

 

[colingr]

Southampton VTC Cruise Ship Schedule

Southampton Scheduled movements

Southampton VTS Useful info for Leisure boat users

 

[lanerboy]

Southampton VTC Cruise Ship Schedule

Southampton Scheduled movements

Southampton VTS Useful info for Leisure boat users

as stated by epervier and confirmed by jokerboat shame all the cruise ships dont get in till sunday

will speak to swmbo and tell her to get up early sunday

 

[epervier]

Not wishing to teach you how to suck eggs, but another tip for when your on your boat, going to sea or not, tune in to 12, you'll get to know how the port works and some of it's buoyage names, just by listening to RT traffic.You may find it useful.

Or maybe it's just me spending too much time on working boats.

 

[prv]

Or maybe it's just me spending too much time on working boats.

Nope - I always listen to 12 when in Southampton Water and the central Solent. Those of us who travel at four knots or less need plenty of warning to get out of the way of any big stuff coming through!

Avoids having to listen to endless radio checks on 16 too

Pete