Soltron & The Fairies

[oldgit]

Mmm 14 % ..........

Let me see 135 hp times 14% = 20 hp ish and that will be x 2 then,cos 2 engines.so thats 40 hp extra.Bloody hell I may even be able to keep up with that swine with the dingy powered by the 2hp seagull thats keeps beating me back to pier./forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

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[Gludy]

What mood?

I am not saying that Soltron is responsible for the great improvement in performance - all I am saying is that Soltron was addedto the fuel 2 weeks before and the boat behaved differently

Its true that I am pleased with the boat but being realistic, I know its not a Cara ... but one day .....

The 60 foot boat makes a f5/6 feel more like a f3/4. You told me this may well be the case.

A lady who was cared to go on the flybridge of my Princess spent hours on the flybridge of the Squadron becuae it felt so stable.

I am enjoying every minute of it and working through lots of little jobs.

My other half has handpainted cushions of local ports and stiched that funny non-slip stuff to the back of the cushions to stop them sliding over leather - it works. She then proceeded to hand paint vases etc all matching - so the saloon and dining area is really looking good.

In the meantime I am finishing off dozens of liitle jobs all aimed ar makinjg life easier.

This weekend we have a forecast f10 at the Mumbles ... not good.

So I still wait for a break in the weather to take her out.



Paul



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[DepSol]

(whisperng) ere Matt just to let you know on the QT that Enzymes work at last 10 x faster than chemicals. Ok I am off now lets keep it a secret I told you ok.

(Cough Cough) Yo Matt hows it going liked your piece on Noah/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[BrendanS]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

Now where did this little gem of information come from? More silly claims which do not do your cause any good at all.

Stop claiming amazing magical effects for enzymes, and we'd take the product more seriously.

Enzymes are chemicals, and they don't work any faster than other chemicals (unless they are involved in a biological 'cascade' reaction, which certainly is not the case with soltron in diesel)

If you want proof. Take 2 standard eppendorf tubes. Half fill each with bug contaminated diesel. Add 10ul concentrated nitric acid to one and shake. Add 10ul soltron to the other and shake

The nitric acid tube will have killed the bugs and broken down the polysaccharide instantly, while the soltron will still be working at it several minutes later.

The real life scenario is that you don't want to add conc HNO3 to fuel tanks, so it's not a useful cure, and you'd have to add a fair quantity because it breaks down, unlike enzymes which keep on working ....

but to claim enzymes are 10x faster than chemicals is just fantasy world make belief.

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[jfm]

appliance of science

I've never said that Soltron doesn't help with bugs, I dont know, but there needs to be some science in all this:

It is absolutely implausible that Solly made a squad 59 gain 6 knots. Something else did it. That is as tcm said several hundred horsepower, 400 or 500. I know Gludy isn't saying that soltron caused this improvement, but even to hint that it might is ludicrous and a complete red herring.

Solly's own behaviour causes doubt. The 14% mpg improvement - if it exists - is easily provable yet they haven't. I tried it (over 100 engine hours) with some science and got 0%. This claim seems quite misleading, and unfortuantely that lack of credibility casts doubt on the bug-kill ability claims

Depsol's statement that an enzyme works 10x faster than a chemical is another example of apparently scientific claim but is in fact complete tosh. It's a meaningless string of words. What chemical? Under what conditions? Doing what exactly?

I'm still prepared to believe solly helps with bugs, but have not yet seen it first hand

 

[DepSol]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

Bet you didnt give Persil this much Shit!!! /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

<hr width=100% size=1>Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[BrendanS]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

Persil make claims which they can prove under lab conditions, and are subject to having their ads pulled if anyone complains, so they make sure of their facts first. Given that they advertise across the UK, they know they will be challenged by scientists if what they claim is implausable, but they can I suppose bend the rules a little and claim 'artistic licence' . It's been know for such ads to be pulled.

However, what you claim for Soltron, above and beyond it's ability to declump bugs, so they clear the fuel system, which does seem to be documented through 'anecdotal evidence' and your postings about filtration tests , though without any clear explanation of why, sometimes beggars belief!!

I've taken the filtration test results at face value, but in a real scientific world, that too would be peer group tested, and many independent scientific groups would all try the same thing to see if their results agreed.

It works too, just think back to the cold fusion claims by one group of scientists, which was comprehensively pulled apart by teams of scientists world wide. In the meantime the press had convinced the world we were on a major breakthrough, because that team had leaked the story before other scientists had checked the results.

Stick to claiming that Soltron clears bug from diesel without a major biocidal effect, and I won't give you a hard time /forums/images/icons/wink.gif

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[duncan]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

bet he did - "washes whiter than what?........take 2 shirts; put one in with persil and the other with concetrated nitric acid.......... " /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[DepSol]

Re: appliance of science

just got a letter from a freight firm who using the on board computers in their Volvo FH420 (42tonnes) was 8mpg before Soltron now 9.2 mpg.

And you should see the figures for the other one.

Now before you jump all over it these arent my claims OK!


<hr width=100% size=1>Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[duncan]

Re: appliance of science

er...you are claiming a freight firm..................

and I am neutral!!!!

ducks...../forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[DepSol]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

Relax,

All will be revealed.

<hr width=100% size=1>Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[DepSol]

Re: appliance of science

freight haulage whatever you want to call them

<hr width=100% size=1>Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[BrendanS]

Re: Fantasy world, well suited to fairy disussions

I'm very relaxed, I enjoy the intellectual challenge of disentangling what might be real science and possibly fact, from marketing claims.

It's not often I get to use my mis-spent youth as a scientist productively these days /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Can't wait to see the next episode, and what will be revealed

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[duncan]

Re: appliance of science

I am not calling them anything - you are!

I really am neutral - and I was more impressed with tcm for coming back with his personal observations recently than anything else that has been said ; he may have to change his nick again to saul/forums/images/icons/smile.gif

I really look forward to meeting you next weekend

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[muchy_]

I added it to my fuel tank just to prevent any bacteria growth and really noticed how it smoothed the engine out. Also, at around 1800rpm the engine used to hunt up and down 100rpm or so but as soon as I added Soltron it stopped doing it and run very smoothly. The other thing was the soot around the exhaust. Cleaned it off just before adding Soltron and black soot has not returned so it must do something to the combustion of the fuel at the very least.
I for one am convinced that it does something, what I'm not sure but there where to many improvments to say it does nothing and I will keep on adding it.

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[duncan]

I have soot on my transom
I will swap soltron for rum
I soot goes away I will tell everybody
and No, I will not try putting rum in instead - I would rather put up with the soot even if it worked /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[DepSol]

Well it seems I am getting pms from alot of people asking me if I want to bring Soltron along to the meet. so as long as it doesnt offend any one I will and if it does offend you TUFF I will live with it /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

Oh and find something better than RUM to swap it with please.

<hr width=100% size=1>Dom

2003 is going to be a good year for me

 

[Forbsie]

Don't forget to bring a 'lil bottle for my 'lil tank. /forums/images/icons/smile.gif

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[tcm]

Good Comeback, depsol! nm

erm Simpsons reference. Irrelevant to the discsssion...

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[c_j]

Sorry to say this but:

When new boaty arrived form Med I decided to use Soltron. I had deisel bug in previous boat and used a biocide but thought sod it I will try soltron from day one. New boat had minor and I mean minor evidence of bug. So went off to shop and paid £60 quid for enough to dose up tanks for a couple of refills.

I watched the argy bargy on the forum between Matt and Dom and new that I could not contribute cause my new boat had only ever had Soltron added so comparisons were not possible and I was not that sure about the bug anyway.


So I filled up and went off down to the West country. When I returned I checked log and refuelled, and bloody hell, I had used 860 litres on 4½ hours running. That was around 100 litres an hour per engine and although I knew that new boat would be more expensive, this was going to seriously curtail my cruising plans.

So I told this story to mate who had come with us and he said "what do you mean 4½ hours, its loads more than that"

So I went back and looked at log, sure enough (and this is where it gets good Dom)..........

In fact we had done 11 hours and around 200 miles Poole, Dartmouth, Ditsum, Salcombe, messing about, Poole.


My last boat with KAD44's but never had Soltron did about a £1 a mile. working on fuel at a £1 a gallon.

This boat, 8 feet longer, with 7 litre (not 4 litre as above) TAMD 74P's did around £1 per mile working on fuel at £1 a gallon (are these pound signs showing?)

I expected around 50% more fuel cost with new boat.

I know its early to say with just one refuel and Port engine was 431 litres and Starboard 485 (with Genny) so I thought 860 in fuel was fair.

200 miles is a bit over the top but the log is on the boat and the only figure I really remember is the 11 hours running.

I will continue to monitor. The soltron is expensive and I will probably try a period without, but this is a real trial.


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