Solent mobos

[dylanwinter]

the solent is an aquired taste

I agree that there are some lovely places there, the sailing can be quite challenging and there is lots to look at at and keep you entertained

but....



when I think about a night aground above Pyefleet, up the Butley or behind Whitton island compared to lieing in bed listening to the boat party three places up at a marina then these are pleasures on a different level

when I think about the zen pleasure to be had starting a sail on the Humber by leaving Brough or Winteringham or drifting down the Run at wells then that is is real beauty

starting your days pleasure at the mouth of the Hamble being wake bombed by arrogant twats is a **** way to start a sail

I have enjoyed experiencing the Solent - it has provided me with some great memories - and I have met some really lovely fantastically helpful blokes - Bill, Dave, Duncan, Tony, Roger

the comaraderie of fellow sailors has been fantastic

I have about four more days exploring the solent ansd then I shall be heading East and North

- but the siolent is not the sort of place I wish to end my sailing days

I prefer the sound of the curlew to the thrum of 500 hp




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[[2068]]

For a a slightly greater challenge, try the other side of the IOW.

This is most definitely not a car park, nor a motorway.

Either start from Yarmouth, and keep turning left, or start from Bembridge, and keep turning right.

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[wully1]

The Solent is not a place I will ever sail in again. It's the exact opposite of why I like being in my wee boatie. As far as I can tell it is only popular because it's close to where most folk live and I hate the crowded south east of England.

But my experience of mobos is positive. We don't get that many where I live and sail and they invariably slow right down as they pass giving a cheery wave, the same as almost every rag and stick yotty I meet.

 

[[2068]]

It's popular because in most wind directions, the IOW will provide some sort of shelter.
And if you're lucky, a pub to have lunch in too.

 

[Uricanejack]

I enjoyed your solent film's. Though I would agree quieter is nicer.

 

[Elessar]

the solent is an aquired taste

I agree that there are some lovely places there, the sailing can be quite challenging and there is lots to look at at and keep you entertained

but....



when I think about a night aground above Pyefleet, up the Butley or behind Whitton island compared to lieing in bed listening to the boat party three places up at a marina then these are pleasures on a different level

when I think about the zen pleasure to be had starting a sail on the Humber by leaving Brough or Winteringham or drifting down the Run at wells then that is is real beauty

starting your days pleasure at the mouth of the Hamble being wake bombed by arrogant twats is a **** way to start a sail

I have enjoyed experiencing the Solent - it has provided me with some great memories - and I have met some really lovely fantastically helpful blokes - Bill, Dave, Duncan, Tony, Roger

the comaraderie of fellow sailors has been fantastic

I have about four more days exploring the solent ansd then I shall be heading East and North

- but the siolent is not the sort of place I wish to end my sailing days

I prefer the sound of the curlew to the thrum of 500 hp

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You have the luxury of time Dylan.

The solent offers amazing diversity in a day sail or weekend sail.
It offers shelter when you need to go sailing on saturday not monday when the forecast is good.
It offers real challenges too. Ocean sailors may scoff but it is true.
And is an easy commute for many.

I understand why you dont want to stay. But its great that you enjoyed it for a while.

For the rest of you who dont want to sail here - great. One less. But dont scoff, it is a great place and popular for good reason. Dylan has seen more of the country than almost every one of us. But he could still see its good bits.

 

[dylanwinter]

You have the luxury of time Dylan.

The solent offers amazing diversity in a day sail or weekend sail.
It offers shelter when you need to go sailing on saturday not monday when the forecast is good.
It offers real challenges too. Ocean sailors may scoff but it is true.
And is an easy commute for many.

I understand why you dont want to stay. But its great that you enjoyed it for a while.

For the rest of you who dont want to sail here - great. One less. But dont scoff, it is a great place and popular for good reason. Dylan has seen more of the country than almost every one of us. But he could still see its good bits.

That is one of the glories of our coastline

it is an immensely varied place and as sailors we all want slightly different things from it.

I would rather have a quiet beer in the cockpit while watching the waders rather than stop at a pub

You can find peace and quiet in the Solent - but you have to seek it out

I would love to make a DVD about the Solent in Winter - the fog across the Beaulieu, ice in Chichester harbour, the migratory birds and the wonderful boats.

the weather is so **** this weekend I fear that I will not get to some of the places I had hoped to visit but I will be coming past again in a few years time - I may be back next year if I bring the Centaur South to sell her. However, I assume that she will also fetch a decent price in the yachting mecca of the Clyde.

D

 

[Twister_Ken]

For a a slightly greater challenge, try the other side of the IOW.

This is most definitely not a car park, nor a motorway.

Either start from Yarmouth, and keep turning left, or start from Bembridge, and keep turning right.

.

Hear hear. Just don't do it on the day of the RTIR.

 

[[2068]]

Hear hear. Just don't do it on the day of the RTIR.

Or if you do, make sure you're going the right way around

 

[boatmike]

It's interesting that it's the heavier boats in semi-displacement mode going quite slowly (12 kts ish) that are generating the largest wakes.

The only real time I had a real problem with wakes in the Solent was when I went across the stern of a tug, to find a 2metre hole in the water.

Agreed FP. I live at Lee-on-Solent so see the Solent in all seasons and weather. Being over 70 and having owned and sailed everything from an old gaffer to a modern catamaran, I think the main complaints are from those who sail on summer weekends where frankly the seamanship and consideration for others is at it's worst. I now, in my dotage, have a heavy semi-displacement MoBo and try very hard to be considerate but frankly it is difficult. Even at 8-10 knots there is more wake than a sailboat would kick up and when sailboats tack right in front of you in a crowded seaway it's difficult not to pass close by. Avoid Sundays and it is a different world. No sailboat racing with hooray Henry's shouting starboard all the time, no cruisers plowing along with barbie doll driving and loud music playing and very few MoBos racing about going as fast as possible as near as possible. It's the same on the roads. Sunday drivers. Even in high summer the attitudes of everybody on the water seems different. It's not just MoBs. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.........

 

[dylanwinter]

Agreed FP. I live at Lee-on-Solent so see the Solent in all seasons and weather. Being over 70 and having owned and sailed everything from an old gaffer to a modern catamaran, I think the main complaints are from those who sail on summer weekends where frankly the seamanship and consideration for others is at it's worst. I now, in my dotage, have a heavy semi-displacement MoBo and try very hard to be considerate but frankly it is difficult. Even at 8-10 knots there is more wake than a sailboat would kick up and when sailboats tack right in front of you in a crowded seaway it's difficult not to pass close by. Avoid Sundays and it is a different world. No sailboat racing with hooray Henry's shouting starboard all the time, no cruisers plowing along with barbie doll driving and loud music playing and very few MoBos racing about going as fast as possible as near as possible. It's the same on the roads. Sunday drivers. Even in high summer the attitudes of everybody on the water seems different. It's not just MoBs. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.........

perhaps you are right aboutt attitudes

but so far all my boats have been essentially wakeless - at least compared to the big planing mobos at whatever speed they go

even the centaur under full power produces nothing like the wakes of the mobos in the films above

as for saying that that a boat kicks up a big wake even at 8 to 10 knots so it is not the owner cannot help it

he chose the boat that makes the wash

.... that is a bit like the kid who has bought a noisy motorbike and says that he cannot be held responsible for the disturbance it creates.

I think for some of them that creamy wash being kicked off the stern is all part of the pleasure

I have also heard people say that the big mobos have to go at six knots otherwise they lose steerage....I think that makes them not fit for purpose.

As for the chichester harbour mobos - I did not even realise there was a harbour speed-limit until I looked it up on the web- I had assumed that they could roar around at whatever speed they like while the harbour patrol guys go around making sure that blokes at anchor are using an anchor ball and collecting money from day visitors.

if these guys are going at eight knots I am a monkey

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqAuGf23jr4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ9W5ZbnnTI

I am heading back North where the mobos are much more considerate - once you get above the Orwell and beyond the reach of the Romford navy things start to settle down

 

[Paddingtonbear]

Give or take a bit the prices are the same

Really? I paid 73p/litre for red about 6 weeks ago, can you really get white for that price?

 

[rptb1]

The Seacats leave a nasty, steep almost square wake; funnily enough I've always found the most difficult to handle high speed jobs, the hovercraft, are way above the others, in another league for courtesy and professionalism.

They'd tend to be professionals, I bet. And don't they also need pilot qualifications?

 

[prv]

Really? I paid 73p/litre for red about 6 weeks ago, can you really get white for that price?

We're talking about the 60/40 fudge rate that most leisure users pay, not the basic untaxed.

I paid £73 for 60 litres at the weekend, that works out at £1.22 per litre. A little cheaper than road diesel, I guess (I don't drive many miles and don't really keep track of prices) but very much in the same ballpark. I'm led to believe that Itchen Marine Towage (where I refuel) is cheaper than many places in the Solent.

Pete

 

[boatmike]

Dylan.

I think your post exhibits an attitude that is common amongst some sailboat owners that MoBo owners have no right to be on the water at all. ALL boat owners should try not only to be considerate to others but to be tolerant of others too. The Solent was not put there for the sole use of sailors and it is incumbent upon us all to recognise that there are no elite classes out there, just those that behave less well than others. I have seen just as much crass behaviour from racing types as I have from MoBos. It is polite to not impede a yacht when racing but they don't have any rights that mean they own the water and frankly you are exhibiting a prejudice that does not help the legitimate case expressed by those who say many MoBos are inconsiderate.

 

[dylanwinter]

I think your post exhibits an attitude that is common amongst some sailboat owners that MoBo owners have no right to be on the water at all. ALL boat owners should try not only to be considerate to others but to be tolerant of others too. The Solent was not put there for the sole use of sailors and it is incumbent upon us all to recognise that there are no elite classes out there, just those that behave less well than others. I have seen just as much crass behaviour from racing types as I have from MoBos. It is polite to not impede a yacht when racing but they don't have any rights that mean they own the water and frankly you are exhibiting a prejudice that does not help the legitimate case expressed by those who say many MoBos are inconsiderate.

of course they have a right to be there

that is why they open up their throttles and let rip

the law allows them to do that

they are exerting their rights - regardless of the inconvenience of others

For those three water users who came within yards of us to expose literally hundreds of other water users to their massive wakes is at best inconsiderate

they care not a flying **** about anyone else

good for you for defending them

their behaviour makes that whole area untenable for anyone in a small boat - an optimist or a canoe for instance

as for the blokes speeding in Chichester harbour.... I guess that is okay because no-one bothers to enforce the speed limits so obviously no-one cares.

Feel free to defend the behaviour - I think it is really rather naughty

 

[KevB]

It's a funny thing that seeing Dylan in his video's he doesn't look like someone who would have such deep loathing/jealousy of someone else's pass time which in reality isn't a million miles away from his own. looks certainly can be deceiving. It's a shame really as he constantly alienates a large number of people who would be interested in his video's. I watch them but they are spoilt with the anticipation of a 'witty' remark about a mobo.

People fart, mobo's make wash. Sometimes you can control it, other times you just have to let it happen and hope no one is around to witness it.

 

[ricky_s]

It's a funny thing that seeing Dylan in his video's he doesn't look like someone who would have such deep loathing/jealousy of someone else's pass time which in reality isn't a million miles away from his own. looks certainly can be deceiving. It's a shame really as he constantly alienates a large number of people who would be interested in his video's. I watch them but they are spoilt with the anticipation of a 'witty' remark about a mobo.

People fart, mobo's make wash. Sometimes you can control it, other times you just have to let it happen and hope no one is around to witness it.

He will give himself an heart attack one day! Must be horrible to feel that bitter.

 

[dylanwinter]

It's a funny thing that seeing Dylan in his video's he doesn't look like someone who would have such deep loathing/jealousy of someone else's pass time which in reality isn't a million miles away from his own. looks certainly can be deceiving. It's a shame really as he constantly alienates a large number of people who would be interested in his video's. I watch them but they are spoilt with the anticipation of a 'witty' remark about a mobo.

People fart, mobo's make wash. Sometimes you can control it, other times you just have to let it happen and hope no one is around to witness it.

jealousy - dream on

 

[KevB]

as for the blokes speeding in Chichester harbour.... I guess that is okay because no-one bothers to enforce the speed limits so obviously no-one cares.

Feel free to defend the behaviour - I think it is really rather naughty

Dylan,

I've moored in Chichester harbour for more than twelve years and can honestly say in all that time you very rarely see anyone speeding, not just out of consideration but the chance of a hefty fine. You will always get knobs but that's just life. I'm sure there is an M25 equivalent of you who films everyone he believes isn't following the highway code to the letter of the law.
There must be better things to do with that time...