Nautorius
Well-Known Member
Well,
What a weird day we have just had. We set off to review boats and see if SWMBO fancied any. We had kind of discussed that we should go for a 30ft boat and spend up to £110k if poss (including ours). The first boats we reviewed were aquadors but although SWMBO loved the 26HT, she felt it was still too small and I thought £106k (including boatshow discount) was a bit steep even for an Aquador so I did not press on.
Realising that this next boat would only last us 3/4 years I wanted to stick to those brands which have good resale in the UK. So we headed off to Sealine, Jeanneau and Doral. We first looked at the S29 which would of been great if we could fit through the Heads and rear cabin doors (not for those on the heavy side) and also she did not like the SC29 as the roof looked to ugly for SWMBO, so that was off the list. Next we reviewed the New Prestige 30. I loved the boat but SWMBO was still not keen, and at £135k it was more than we wanted to spend so we left that. Last was the Doral 280 Prestancia. SWMBO was quite keen on this and we thought it might be the one. We had a long chat with an Essex Salesman, highlighted our past affiliation and then had a private chat together. SWMBO was concerned how fast we might grow out of it and so I agreed that it was possible to get a 35ft boat new, but not till start of 2008. So we headed off to compare what we could get.
First up Doral 330 Elegante, which was lovely but pricey given that it was an open plan cabin. So we headed off to Bavaria where we liked the 35HT. Only issue was fit out of Cockpit (felt cheap) and price at £179k. However with Hagling soon got them down to £158 fully loaded with good (fair PX) so added that to the list. Next went to see Sealine S34. SWMBO loved it, and was very keen to do a deal there and thewn /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. So I spoke to the Sales Lady and was amazed to find out the Sales price at Boatshow was £179k! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif No discounts were coming and when I asked about PX she shruged and walked off. In absolute amazement at both price and no PX we walked off the stand and, as we were leaving, the lady casually stated that we should sell ours first then come back and talk prices! Peters are not selling Fairlines now, they were Sealines but I was amazed at the attitude and price! (the boat is 10 years oid and hardly updated). My wallet breathed a sigh of relief though...£179k..WTF! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So next off to Cranchi (an old favourite of Mine). It was the first time SWMBO had seen an Z34 with wood interior and she loved it. They came up with a great price straight away £155k fully loaded and offered a good PX. Well done Cranchi and Abersoch land and sea (port solent office). That was added to the list. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Last was the Prestige 34HT. This, taking all into account, was my favourite and SWMBO was quite taken with it. The Spec we wanted was exactly the same as the Boatshow boat. The boatshow price for that spec was £158k....and they offered us the ex showboat at £152k so not a bad or great deal. I felt we could tweak it a little so asked about PX. We got low sale price minus brokerage fees offered (about 10k than we had paid 3 months ago on a 50k boat) This annoyed me so we walked off. (it is still on the list but only for a better deal as it is the smallest boat). /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
So we then ended up with a choice. Go for the Doral 280 there and then or wait 12 months and get a 1) Zaffiro 34, 2) Prestige 34 or 3) Bav 35HT. So back to Doral to do a deal on the 280........
and for the first time they let us down. Having told us of the great boatshow deals they offered us £2k less for the current boat than we bought it for (they had intoned we would get the money back if we bought a new one) and then basically 1/2 the price of the extras we put on it, so no price discount and Extras at cost! It worked out at £122k for the Doral.....and they were not keen on budging...so we walked away. The irony is that if the deal was right we would have bought as we wanted to stay loyal to Essex. Unfortunately they thought we were money bags so we walked away. The loyalty bond is now gone. We will look at 2nd hand Z34, Prestige 34HT over the winter and see if there is a deal to be done. If not it will be back to SIBS next year to try and spend our Cash, and essex scored an own goal.
AWARDS
Bavaria for fastest drop in price (11%) only a Silver Star as the Quality looked poor but they were keen.
Sealine a brown smelly gong for worst Sales team and Pricing (lost the plot) /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Essex and Doral a Smaller Brown/bronze gong for losing a sale over a few grand (when he had told us how much margin was in it to drop) and then did not go to it, or even try.
Cranchi and Abersoch a Gold Star for being straight forward and Honest and having the best product at the best price.
Jeanneau a bronze star for trying a lot and good service, but having a sale lost through being tight on PX and Discount on Display boat....it had Largest Engines D4 260 which no one else wanted???
So I still have my trusty little Aquador and our deposit stays in the bank for a few more months. I expect to see record sales figures as we could not spend our cash.....
The End
Paul /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
What a weird day we have just had. We set off to review boats and see if SWMBO fancied any. We had kind of discussed that we should go for a 30ft boat and spend up to £110k if poss (including ours). The first boats we reviewed were aquadors but although SWMBO loved the 26HT, she felt it was still too small and I thought £106k (including boatshow discount) was a bit steep even for an Aquador so I did not press on.
Realising that this next boat would only last us 3/4 years I wanted to stick to those brands which have good resale in the UK. So we headed off to Sealine, Jeanneau and Doral. We first looked at the S29 which would of been great if we could fit through the Heads and rear cabin doors (not for those on the heavy side) and also she did not like the SC29 as the roof looked to ugly for SWMBO, so that was off the list. Next we reviewed the New Prestige 30. I loved the boat but SWMBO was still not keen, and at £135k it was more than we wanted to spend so we left that. Last was the Doral 280 Prestancia. SWMBO was quite keen on this and we thought it might be the one. We had a long chat with an Essex Salesman, highlighted our past affiliation and then had a private chat together. SWMBO was concerned how fast we might grow out of it and so I agreed that it was possible to get a 35ft boat new, but not till start of 2008. So we headed off to compare what we could get.
First up Doral 330 Elegante, which was lovely but pricey given that it was an open plan cabin. So we headed off to Bavaria where we liked the 35HT. Only issue was fit out of Cockpit (felt cheap) and price at £179k. However with Hagling soon got them down to £158 fully loaded with good (fair PX) so added that to the list. Next went to see Sealine S34. SWMBO loved it, and was very keen to do a deal there and thewn /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif. So I spoke to the Sales Lady and was amazed to find out the Sales price at Boatshow was £179k! /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif No discounts were coming and when I asked about PX she shruged and walked off. In absolute amazement at both price and no PX we walked off the stand and, as we were leaving, the lady casually stated that we should sell ours first then come back and talk prices! Peters are not selling Fairlines now, they were Sealines but I was amazed at the attitude and price! (the boat is 10 years oid and hardly updated). My wallet breathed a sigh of relief though...£179k..WTF! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
So next off to Cranchi (an old favourite of Mine). It was the first time SWMBO had seen an Z34 with wood interior and she loved it. They came up with a great price straight away £155k fully loaded and offered a good PX. Well done Cranchi and Abersoch land and sea (port solent office). That was added to the list. /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif
Last was the Prestige 34HT. This, taking all into account, was my favourite and SWMBO was quite taken with it. The Spec we wanted was exactly the same as the Boatshow boat. The boatshow price for that spec was £158k....and they offered us the ex showboat at £152k so not a bad or great deal. I felt we could tweak it a little so asked about PX. We got low sale price minus brokerage fees offered (about 10k than we had paid 3 months ago on a 50k boat) This annoyed me so we walked off. (it is still on the list but only for a better deal as it is the smallest boat). /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
So we then ended up with a choice. Go for the Doral 280 there and then or wait 12 months and get a 1) Zaffiro 34, 2) Prestige 34 or 3) Bav 35HT. So back to Doral to do a deal on the 280........
and for the first time they let us down. Having told us of the great boatshow deals they offered us £2k less for the current boat than we bought it for (they had intoned we would get the money back if we bought a new one) and then basically 1/2 the price of the extras we put on it, so no price discount and Extras at cost! It worked out at £122k for the Doral.....and they were not keen on budging...so we walked away. The irony is that if the deal was right we would have bought as we wanted to stay loyal to Essex. Unfortunately they thought we were money bags so we walked away. The loyalty bond is now gone. We will look at 2nd hand Z34, Prestige 34HT over the winter and see if there is a deal to be done. If not it will be back to SIBS next year to try and spend our Cash, and essex scored an own goal.
AWARDS
Bavaria for fastest drop in price (11%) only a Silver Star as the Quality looked poor but they were keen.
Sealine a brown smelly gong for worst Sales team and Pricing (lost the plot) /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
Essex and Doral a Smaller Brown/bronze gong for losing a sale over a few grand (when he had told us how much margin was in it to drop) and then did not go to it, or even try.
Cranchi and Abersoch a Gold Star for being straight forward and Honest and having the best product at the best price.
Jeanneau a bronze star for trying a lot and good service, but having a sale lost through being tight on PX and Discount on Display boat....it had Largest Engines D4 260 which no one else wanted???
So I still have my trusty little Aquador and our deposit stays in the bank for a few more months. I expect to see record sales figures as we could not spend our cash.....
The End
Paul /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
