Scotty_Tradewind
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One of my crew asks this question as he is more than broke at present.
Should I take my passport to the Channel Isles?
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flaming
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Might be worth it in case something goes awry and you divert to france!
Evadne
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I would always take my passport if venturing out of British waters. If you end up in French waters and get boarded by les douanes.....
pmyatt
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Legally, You need to have your passport with you to cross any external border in the EU. Returning to the UK is crossing an external border.
James_Calvert
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Would he need one if he had to return from CI by ferry or plane?
Sailfree
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One of my crew asks this question as he is more than broke at present.
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Please advise on what is the cost of putting your passport in your pocket /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We were recently stopped by Uk customs S of the neddles and they wanted to see passports!
One of my crew asks this question as he is more than broke at present.
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Please advise on what is the cost of putting your passport in your pocket /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
We were recently stopped by Uk customs S of the neddles and they wanted to see passports!
fireball
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Please advise on what is the cost of putting your passport in your pocket
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Erm - about £80 to renew it ....
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We were recently stopped by Uk customs S of the neddles and they wanted to see passports!
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You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
Please advise on what is the cost of putting your passport in your pocket
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Erm - about £80 to renew it ....
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We were recently stopped by Uk customs S of the neddles and they wanted to see passports!
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You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
Sailfree
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You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
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With the track on the chartplotter and a log (which I believe most people keep) it is easy for UK customs to prove we had been to Carteret in France in addition to the CI's
You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
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With the track on the chartplotter and a log (which I believe most people keep) it is easy for UK customs to prove we had been to Carteret in France in addition to the CI's
Talulah
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On several occasions in France I have had crew who have had to return by ferry but have not had their passport with them. This was declared at the booking office. They called over some official who then asked about 3 questions. They were then allowed on to the ferry no problems.
Scotty_Tradewind
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Is there something they're not telling you Ed? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
Talulah
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One occasion was in Le Havre. Engine failure (not my boat.)
Another occasion was in Cherbourg - bad weather.
I've been across many times without my passport but would prefer to have it as it saves creating problems.
Another occasion was in Cherbourg - bad weather.
I've been across many times without my passport but would prefer to have it as it saves creating problems.
snooks
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You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
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Just a thought, don't you leave territorial waters (12 miles off I think) to get there?
The CI are outside of the EU. but you don't have to fill in any passport information on the customs form.
As skipper I wouldn't want to take someone without a passport, I'd prolly lend them the money to get it sorted
You're still in British waters - so as long as they can't prove you've come from outside british waters then tough - you don't _have_ to have it with you ...
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Just a thought, don't you leave territorial waters (12 miles off I think) to get there?
The CI are outside of the EU. but you don't have to fill in any passport information on the customs form.
As skipper I wouldn't want to take someone without a passport, I'd prolly lend them the money to get it sorted
David_Jersey
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For ferries and planes passengers do need photo ID (both ways) - but no requirement for a passport to or from the UK mainland at the moment (that was on the horizon recently but got squashed in the House of Lords at the last moment).
Jersey Rules for bl##dy foreigners
FWIW Jersey as a last outpost of the British Empire is very sensitive about being seen as a back door into the UK so is quite happy to follow any stupidity issued by HMG - so a passport when arriving is probably a good idea, especially if one sounds (or looks?) kinda foreign..........
Jersey Rules for bl##dy foreigners
FWIW Jersey as a last outpost of the British Empire is very sensitive about being seen as a back door into the UK so is quite happy to follow any stupidity issued by HMG - so a passport when arriving is probably a good idea, especially if one sounds (or looks?) kinda foreign..........
toad_oftoadhall
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Apparently the tunnel's the same. Mate turned up without passport. 'Sounding and looking English' was all that was required to get him on. Heard that second hand but from a reliable source and I do know for a fact he lost his passport abroad.
Makes sense when you think about it. How many thousands of people must lose their passports abroad? They can't all go to the Embassy for a new passport so there must be some commonsense rules in place to get people home without fuss.
Until I see some evidence otherwise I will continue to stick with the working assumption that all this "French/Spanish/Portuguese police forces are ignorant/corrupt and looking to lock up the innocent" is just pure racism.
I travel in Europe more than most and I’ve always found European Customs Officers and Policemen to be excellent.
Evadne:
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Then what? Are you going to tell us exactly what dire consequences awaits our innocent passportless traveller at the hands of those evil Frenchies?
Or are you going to let a row of full stops insinuate some snide accusation that you can't back up?
In answer to the original question - it's up to him, don't get involved.
Makes sense when you think about it. How many thousands of people must lose their passports abroad? They can't all go to the Embassy for a new passport so there must be some commonsense rules in place to get people home without fuss.
Until I see some evidence otherwise I will continue to stick with the working assumption that all this "French/Spanish/Portuguese police forces are ignorant/corrupt and looking to lock up the innocent" is just pure racism.
I travel in Europe more than most and I’ve always found European Customs Officers and Policemen to be excellent.
Evadne:
[/ QUOTE ]If you end up in French waters and get boarded by les douanes....
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Then what? Are you going to tell us exactly what dire consequences awaits our innocent passportless traveller at the hands of those evil Frenchies?
Or are you going to let a row of full stops insinuate some snide accusation that you can't back up?
In answer to the original question - it's up to him, don't get involved.
DownWest
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As a frequent traveler in Portugal/Spain/ France, there is a legal requirement to carry I.D. Residents in the first two must get I.D. cards. Here in France, one cannot get a card as a foreign national. So passeport is carried, or photo driving license.
As for corruption, in 30yrs of living in these countries, I have found the police to be reasonable and polite. Been fined a few times, but nicely. And deserved it. Also been let off when they could have fined me.
Also had to go to the local cop shop to vouch for someone who forgot his ID, so they could release him.
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As for corruption, in 30yrs of living in these countries, I have found the police to be reasonable and polite. Been fined a few times, but nicely. And deserved it. Also been let off when they could have fined me.
Also had to go to the local cop shop to vouch for someone who forgot his ID, so they could release him.
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samwise
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When you return to the UK from the CI you are diverted around the passport check, however I would agree that it is good policy to take the passport when effectively crossing borders. I know that passports are requested when flying from Norwich to Aberdeen, when they also take a picture of you at the security station. I guess the possible problem with the poster's cash-strapped friend is that he doesn't want to shell out for a new passport .
DownWest
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Getting a new one abroard is more pricey than the UK, I seem to remember shelling out €180 to change mine. Wasn't out of date, just not machine readable and I had to cancell a trip to the USA as a result.
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