Ship aground on Brambel bank?

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Oddly, there don't seem to be any rules specifically about several thousands tons of marine hardware on a cricket pitch. However, Law 10.2(b), which deals with pitch sweeping, requires that the pitch shall be cleared of any debris at all intervals for meals, between innings and at the beginning of each day, not earlier than 30 minutes nor later than 10 minutes before the time scheduled or rescheduled for play to begin.

One hopes the salvage crew are acquainted with this provision. And have rather large brooms.

Ah thank you, looks like a job for 'new brooms' then :)

Oh justa thought, are wellingtons and thigh waders allowed on the pitch, might damage the surface?
 

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So, if a pilot was on board, and bearing in mind the AIS track, then mechanical failure could well be the cause.

I would say so. Came to port round the buoy and either they didnt come back to mid-ships or the rudder stuck at port.

Steering Gear Failure. Steering Gear Failure. Emergency tiller flat party close up at the rush :D
 

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Recently attended a very interesting talk by one of the Southampton Pilots, they would have had a pilot onboard the ship at that point.
It is possible to dispense with the services of the Pilot but that would require the master to sit an examination to allow them that privilege, imho i think it is only really the passenger/car ferries that do that, as even Her Majesties Warships will take on a Pilot
 

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I would say so. Came to port round the buoy and either they didnt come back to mid-ships or the rudder stuck at port.

Steering Gear Failure. Steering Gear Failure. Emergency tiller flat party close up at the rush :D

http://www.islandecho.co.uk/news/hoe...daytime-photos

"Hoegh Osaka ran aground on The Solent off the Island’s coastline, prompting a major rescue operation to save 25 crews members and a pilot on board the stricken vessel."

"Island Echo understands a mechanical malfunction could be to blame for the incident, with a hard port steer engaged"
 

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Ah thank you, looks like a job for 'new brooms' then :)

Oh justa thought, are wellingtons and thigh waders allowed on the pitch, might damage the surface?

You could treat it as an obstruction in the field (such as the tree was at Canterbury) which would require local rules to qualify what happens when the ball hits it.
 

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Not sure what you are just saying, but there was a report that there was pilot on board at the time.

I was unaware that there was a report that there was a pilot on board. At one stage last night the reports suggested crews of 17 to 27 and someone broke a leg. That, as usual, has been firmed up. Not the leg, the report.

My amusement was caused by a qualified no (quite correct as per my VTS link) and a definite yes (quite correct if the report its be believed).

As we can't even get the times of HW correct due to professional organisations giving different times it just amused me that two different answers were given to the same question. No offence intended or probably caused.
 

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I was unaware that there was a report that there was a pilot on board. At one stage last night the reports suggested crews of 17 to 27 and someone broke a leg. That, as usual, has been firmed up. Not the leg, the report.

My amusement was caused by a qualified no (quite correct as per my VTS link) and a definite yes (quite correct if the report its be believed).

As we can't even get the times of HW correct due to professional organisations giving different times it just amused me that two different answers were given to the same question. No offence intended or probably caused.

Non taken :D it was clear what you were askin Just_ sayin :D
 

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The link you posted states clearly that the ship would require a pilot, unless the Master or First Mate possessed a PEC. So a "no" isn't necessarily "quite correct".

But if the master had a PEC than 'no' would have been the correct answer.

No reason why the captain of a car transporter couldn't have a PEC.

I'm pretty sure all the x-channel ferry captains have PEC's (and possibly fly a flag?)
 

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How often does this skipper use Soton. I would suggest seldom

How would I know? Why would you say that? Don't you have a BBC link available? As far as I know Southampton has one of the largest port car distribution centres in the UK. Pretty much a milk run for some skippers.

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Global connections provided by all major deep-sea and short-sea roro lines

The 80 ha of dedicated vehicle storage and distribution compounds are rail-connected to receive regular specialist trains and have adjacent deep-water berthing

The port has three dedicated car terminals in the Eastern Docks

Offers value-added services including pre-delivery inspections and vehicle-enhancement work
 
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In a statement, Hoegh Autoliners said the ship "suffered a heavy list earlier yesterday evening after leaving Southampton Port". This is a straight lift from the owners website and seems to suggest that the shop developed the list and was then driven on to the bank on purpose, which would help to explain why the ship has such a large list. If she'd simply run onto the bank, with her flat bottom she'd tend to sit upright rather than the heavy list she's showing.
 
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