Serious question for the younger sailors. How do you maintain an income when sailing abroad?

[GHA]

if i had a dollar for every clueless cruiser i have helped out in the last 110,000 miles of cruising..........

Charging fifty quid to fellow cruisers just to load some pirated software, let's face it, just plain greedy and luckily not at all common behaviour in the self helping cruising community.

 

[atol]

Charging fifty quid to fellow cruisers just to load some software, let's face it, just plain greedy and luckily not at all common behaviour in the self helping cruising community.

these were the days when it first came out, the alternative was a plotter which was £1500 pounds and the cards were £250 each if you were savvy enough then with computers you could do it yourself,as well as work out the nmea connections for themselves

 

[beermonkey]

Im curious how you keep yourself over water, especially for longer trips.

I hope that if you're fairly practical and happy to get your hands dirty, then you can always make a bob or two on the side, 'cos we all know that brains is good but muscles is betterer!

Dunno who said it, but sometimes, not having *enough* is all you need.

 

[sailaboutvic]

thank god there mostly helpful people in the cruisers world and very few who only interest is to make a few bob from less knowledge able cruisers .

In the shower block there a battery for €25 and an kettle for 5€ there be out by the bin in a week or so for free , there wouldn't be your by any chance atol ?
Ok moving on .

 

[Deleted member 478]

.... in the last 110,000 miles of cruising..........

Geez, how many anchorages were you encouraged to leave or did you do that pointless ARC four times?

 

[atol]

thank god there mostly helpful people in the cruisers world and very few who only interest is to make a few bob from less knowledge able cruisers .

In the shower block there a battery for €25 and an kettle for 5€ there be out by the bin in a week or so for free , there wouldn't be your by any chance atol ?
Ok moving on .

Did i ever tell you about when i saved a whole island from starvation?
British sailor saves Kanton islanders from starvation

 

[atol]

Geez, how many anchorages were you encouraged to leave or did you do that pointless ARC four times?

not this one
British hero sailor saves 24 starving islanders during voyage to Australia... and the name's Mr Bond

 

[atol]

Charging fifty quid to fellow cruisers just to load some pirated software, let's face it, just plain greedy and luckily not at all common behaviour in the self helping cruising community.

i feel the same way every time i go in a marina to get water

 

[Deleted member 478]

i feel the same way every time i go in a marina to get water

What? Cruisers in a marina charging you for water? I doubt that. A marina charging you for a resource that they have to pay for is not piracy.

 

[cherod]

I am buying a new boat atm so I cant say yet what I expect to be paying.

But from travelling as a backpacker I know Id definitely would get by. Atleast in europe and north africa.

Not too mention the work I do online now and the leathercrafting.

Always found jobs when I needed them, and got offered something more often than I wanted. Though I rarely ever worked as it was part of my roaming freedom.

I am quite handy and can do lots of stuff ranging from painting to gardening over to simple constructions, installing windows, plumbing etc. Was quite the salesman also, was very good at promoting things (a field where you always find work even if you dont exactly speak the local language), I can translate 3 languages and I noticed Im a good teacher aswell. But Im a terrible student haha. Funny how things are.

But most importantly I know that not knowing something doesnt stop me from doing it. If I dont know how to a certain thing I put time and energy into it and learn.

So I think I have quite a wide skillset but unfortunately I never became a master in any trade.

There are many things on my list I think would be useful but are yet to be learned. Like welding. Or working with electric.

Good on you mate , i , for one , respect your go and do it attitude ?

 

[atol]

What? Cruisers in a marina charging you for water? I doubt that. A marina charging you for a resource that they have to pay for is not piracy.

Good on you mate , i , for one , respect your go and do it attitude ?

hear hear!
,don't listen to these sad loosers who have never done anything with their lives .
Here is another tip you can always find money snorkeling along a busy tourist beach where the breakline is or in hotel pools on the bottom at the end of the day

 

[convex]

Did i ever tell you about when i saved a whole island from starvation?

Only for them to die of diabetes & heart disease later?

provisions such as cooking fat, rice, sugar and flour

One question to whoever wishes, would you vary your rates according to the means of the payer, eg charge £250 per hour working for a solicitor?

 

[cherod]

Only for them to die of diabetes & heart disease later?

One question to whoever wishes, would you vary your rates according to the means of the payer, eg charge £250 per hour working for a solicitor?

Depends on their demeanour ( as with anyone )

 

[DangerousPirate]

Again, you're making assumptions about what I consider possible and what I do or do not give up on. All I've done is point out the reality that selling tat to tourists or ripping off folk through dropshipping are not ways I'd care to (not) fund a cruising lifestyle.
Sorry if that doesn't jibe with your positivity kick, but I'm old enough and wise enough to have seen more broken dreamers than successful magical thinkers.
And yes, satellite internet is a thing, but it is going to cost a hellavalot more than you're going to have in readies. Ever wondered why most of the Tubers are always seeking out bars with free wifi?

What do you mean "ripping off"?

 

[atol]

Only for them to die of diabetes & heart disease later?

One question to whoever wishes, would you vary your rates according to the means of the payer, eg charge £250 per hour working for a solicitor?

really if you have nothing constructive to add why bother posting?

 

[newtothis]

What do you mean "ripping off"?

Selling products sight unseen, acting as a middle man without ever putting any investment into anything but marketing, hard sells through social media, no quality control and no after-sales service... I could go on.

 

[convex]

really if you have nothing constructive to add why bother posting?

Actually, it was a serious comment.

Diabetes and obesity from precisely those unnatural, imported food products they've become addicted to is a serious problem in the region.

To be honest, you may feel like a hero, but I think you got shaken down.

They've been living healthily on seafoods & fruits etc for at least 100s of years, probably since they migrated from Asia. The clue was in asking for biscuit & cake ingredients instead of food.

Prevention and control of diabetes in Pacific people

while diabetes was virtually non-existent in populations indigenous to the Pacific maintaining a traditional lifestyle, the reverse was true for the urbanised Pacific populations.1 In recent decades diabetes prevalence has increased rapidly over time in the indigenous people in the Pacific region (Polynesian, Melanesian, Micronesian), both in the Pacific islands and in countries such as New Zealand.

Prevalence has been increasing rapidly in all three environments, and Pacific people experience greater morbidity and more complications than white people with diabetes.

Genetic factors alone cannot explain these patterns, which are due to rapid changes in lifestyle and risk factors such as obesity, unhealthy diets, and physical inactivity that have become widespread throughout the region.

 

[Plymsea]

I am shocked but not surprised that this thread has turned into a division of people who can aspire to something seemingly impossible and those who feast on the crushing of dreams.

Of those who say they have seen countless people fail, were you as monumentally unsupportive to them too? If you tell someone often enough, then it becomes an enforced prophesy - surely?

And on the subject of "evil" drop shippers. I found a part this week for my boat that was £12 rather than £160, thanks to a drop shipping supplier. They dont feel so terrible to me!

 

[beermonkey]

Only for them to die of diabetes & heart disease later?

One question to whoever wishes, would you vary your rates according to the means of the payer, eg charge £250 per hour working for a solicitor?

Personally, yes - just as I'd pay some young, keen thing a bit more for a job well done. Favouritism and reward works both ways. I'd gladly charge some curmudgeonly old fool ton a gin palace twice the price.

 

[beermonkey]

these were the days when it first came out, the alternative was a plotter which was £1500 pounds and the cards were £250 each if you were savvy enough then with computers you could do it yourself,as well as work out the nmea connections for themselves

Fair play Atol, I remember being the dupe who was the "IT expert" back in the 80/90's when most people couldn't spell computer and it took most of a day to install the simplist software. A crunchy crinkly one for half a day's work and the inevitable half a day's tuition seems fair for the time to me.