andy59
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What about these twassocks then Dylan , especially the wakeboarders at the end 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWINygISxDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWINygISxDE
selling the slug and buying a mobo
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dylanwinter
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brilliant bit of film
hate to resurrect an old thread
but it is the end of the year and Andy bubbled this to the front page again a day or so ago.
This is a great bit of film work and I think it just goes to show how inconsiderate some sailors can be. Whizzing along at dangerously high speeds so close to the mobos who were filming them and their totally irresponsible behaviour.
So you are correct Andy - these people need to be exposed as thoroughly bad eggs. Mobos good - sailors bad
Dylan
Not been on the slug for a month now - getting withdrawal symptoms - had a bit of a fight on my hands the last couple of weeks - http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/
What about these twassocks then Dylan , especially the wakeboarders at the end
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWINygISxDE
hate to resurrect an old thread
but it is the end of the year and Andy bubbled this to the front page again a day or so ago.
This is a great bit of film work and I think it just goes to show how inconsiderate some sailors can be. Whizzing along at dangerously high speeds so close to the mobos who were filming them and their totally irresponsible behaviour.
So you are correct Andy - these people need to be exposed as thoroughly bad eggs. Mobos good - sailors bad
Dylan
Not been on the slug for a month now - getting withdrawal symptoms - had a bit of a fight on my hands the last couple of weeks - http://www.duckworksmagazine.com/
RayKYC
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English english
Keep Turning Left and the Yachting and Boating World forum are teaching me some lovely English english.
bodge - bodging - bodger --excellent and useful word, more than diy... diy well enough to make a working repair. Filters out all the botched up diys.
twass0ck = tw@t + pill0ck another excellently appropriate word for so many @ssholes we all cross paths with from time to time. Bonus word "pill0ck" comes along with it. Brilliant!
Sentence: Since that pill0ck of a mechanic went off with his tw@t of a girlfriend, I was stuck here bodging my own fuel pump when that mobo twass0ck over there screeched by and washed me over the side into the drink!
Lovely.
Keep Turning Left and the Yachting and Boating World forum are teaching me some lovely English english.
bodge - bodging - bodger --excellent and useful word, more than diy... diy well enough to make a working repair. Filters out all the botched up diys.
twass0ck = tw@t + pill0ck another excellently appropriate word for so many @ssholes we all cross paths with from time to time. Bonus word "pill0ck" comes along with it. Brilliant!
Sentence: Since that pill0ck of a mechanic went off with his tw@t of a girlfriend, I was stuck here bodging my own fuel pump when that mobo twass0ck over there screeched by and washed me over the side into the drink!
Lovely.
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blueglass
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Happy New Year to all!
and a happy new year from everyone on the photoshop team
DougH
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Some motorboaters seem to be fairly unaware that other water users might have different priorities. As witness, for example, the chap on the motorboat forum who has just said that generators running are part of the ambience of anchorages and that anyone who wants peace and quiet should go to a marina.
Ubergeekian, why are you unaware that other water users, let alone other motorboaters, might have different priorities to you?
Searush
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Another guy who doesn't "get it"?
Do Ubergeek's priorities make other people's lives a misery, or is he simply quietly enjoying himself with no impact on those around him or the environment?
Now, generators - are they a "no nuisance" choice or does the noise & pollution affect neighbours & the planet? And I include in this comment those yotties that run their engines for battery charging purposes in anchorages/ harbours.
blueglass
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have to say Im with ubergeek on this one too. An anchorage SHOULD be a place for quiet enjoyment with respect for those around you. The concept of going into a marina for peace and quiet is an odd comment. (maybe tongue in cheek?)
DougH
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I "get it", but I suggest you do not.
Any cala, bay, river anchorage etc has different users at various times of the year and all the users have different priorities.
In Mallorca things go from having a cala all to yourself to nearly rubbing shoulders with all types and sizes of boats from all countries.
These various people are divers, skiers, waterjet users, dinghy sailors, snorklers, kids being towed in doughnuts etc, folks having picnics on the beach to swimmers and cliff divers etc etc etc.
We are not two types of humans but are made up of many faceted peoples with many ideas of what is required for them to enjoy their playtime.
Of course I accept that there are many inconsiderate people around, but these types are found in all walks and locations of life.
All I am pointing out to you and Searush is that a cala or bay is different things to different people.
If you wish for peace without interuption all you have to do is raise your sails and head off shore.
Otherwise just accept that we are all different.
Must also point out that we do not get this attitude in Mallorca nor is there the agression that is exhibited between sail and power.
In my marina (Cala d'Or) we get many British & German training yachts and without doubt the Germans are the most friendly and allways like to look over the boat etc.
The British professional skippers are also very polite and helpful BUT some of the crew are absolute pr*ts. As they walk past the boat (on the way to the showers) they make the most childish comments in loud voices.
IT IS ONLY THE BRITISH WHO DO THIS. (I have English, German and French speakers that are on my boat)
Does this worry me? NO. Even Rag & Stick merchants are welcome to come aboard and a beer is always waiting.
My boat is the last word in luxury but in my opinion the type of vessel Searush prefers leaves a lot to be desired and I certainly would not consider owning one,
But Searush loves his boat so who am I to say he is wrong.
In conclusion, we all want different things from this life so why should any one section of society rule.
That includes you , me, Searush or anyone else
That feels better.
Lucky Duck
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At first I thought it was a tongue in cheek comment or another attempt to get a reaction like the poster's 'interesting' interpretations of COLREGS. Sadly that doesn't appear to be the case.
While I can't speak for elsewhere but in my cruising ground people go to anchorages to get away from the grind of modern life and enjoy the quiet and don't appreciate having it disturbed by somebody who needs to have a generator running in order to flush thier electic toilet.
Regarding those that feel that people who would like anchorages to be relatively peaceful are being unreasonable, I wonder how they would feel if thier neighbours on land behaved in such an inconsiderate manner?
Searush
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DougH
Thank you for that, I'm glad you feel better. If I was in the Balearics then I would not be choosing the popular holiday calas for my quiet anchorage. Just as I choose anchorages round N Wales with limited or no road access. There are plenty of places for the noisy & exhuberant.
It is clear from your rant (despite your disparaging remarks about the fact that I can't afford a "luxury MoBo" like yours) that you do understand the difference between quiet & popular locations. All we ask is appropriate behaviour in each, and respect for others, even when they can only afford an older or smaller boat with limited facilities. We have just as much right to peace & quiet & respect as you on your luxury boat.
I can't comment on your disappointment in British yotties as I am not a marina person. Incidentally, if I wanted the last word in megga luxury & gratuitous wealth display, I suppose I could always sell a couple of my houses. Somehow the idea does not appeal in any way.
As I said, you just don't get it at all.
Thank you for that, I'm glad you feel better. If I was in the Balearics then I would not be choosing the popular holiday calas for my quiet anchorage. Just as I choose anchorages round N Wales with limited or no road access. There are plenty of places for the noisy & exhuberant.
It is clear from your rant (despite your disparaging remarks about the fact that I can't afford a "luxury MoBo" like yours
) that you do understand the difference between quiet & popular locations. All we ask is appropriate behaviour in each, and respect for others, even when they can only afford an older or smaller boat with limited facilities. We have just as much right to peace & quiet & respect as you on your luxury boat.I can't comment on your disappointment in British yotties as I am not a marina person. Incidentally, if I wanted the last word in megga luxury & gratuitous wealth display, I suppose I could always sell a couple of my houses. Somehow the idea does not appeal in any way.
As I said, you just don't get it at all.
blueglass
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I can see a certain validity to your argument although can't really say I would want to be there with you. Your image of the Spanish Calas was what convinced me to head east to the less hectic parts of the Med. Each to his own, as you say, and with all that going on around you I don't suppose the odd genny would even be audible.
I think what C-truss and others are saying is that if it is a quiet, secluded anchorage, as opposed to a holiday resort beach, then that should be respected and genny noise kept to an absolute minimum, if required at all.
For the record I do have a mobo and I do have a genny.
DougH
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DougH
Thank you for that, I'm glad you feel better. If I was in the Balearics then I would not be choosing the popular holiday calas for my quiet anchorage. Just as I choose anchorages round N Wales with limited or no road access. There are plenty of places for the noisy & exhuberant.
It is clear from your rant (despite your disparaging remarks about the fact that I can't afford a "luxury MoBo" like yours
I can't comment on your disappointment in British yotties as I am not a marina person. Incidentally, if I wanted the last word in megga luxury & gratuitous wealth display, I suppose I could always sell a couple of my houses. Somehow the idea does not appeal in any way.
As I said, you just don't get it at all.
WOW Searush, just how wrong can you be.
Where do I say that you cannot afford a luxury boat or indeed make any remarks regarding your financial status. (I have repeated my post above and suggest you reread it)
What you and a few others fail to accept is that whilst you may crave "peace & quiete" whilst at anchor, others may wish to enjoy the anchorage in a different way which entails making a noise. (I agree that noisy generators should not be necessary ) Remember all the people that are on the boats are either on holiday or at weekend leisure.
You say that you have a "right to peace & quiete & respect" but steadfastly refuse to realise that you should also be willing to grant the same "respect" to others who wish to use the anchorage in a different way to you.
When I am in a cala with only my wife and myself on the boat we do not make any noise and we welcome the peace and quiete. I switch off the generator even though it is silent running on the suface as I realise that some vibrations are tranmitted underwater and that other vessels may not wish to share these vibrations with me.
However when my Son and his young family use the boat the whole atmosphere changes and things are far noisier. Just what do you think we should say, BE QUIETE CHILDREN, SEARUSH IS NEARBY AND HE DEMANDS WE CONFORM TO HIS IDEA OF ENJOYMENT.
No, you do not get it, we are all different and no one person has monopoly on the actions of others no matter how much you "ROLLEYES"
For your infomation, though no doubt you will misinterpret what I am saying, I also owned a Westerley many moons ago which I purchased new when they were still in manufacture.
However rag & stick was not for me but I do frequently notice a certain agression from,(thankfully) a small percentage of sailboat users, towards powerboat users that surfaces around the subject of money and the rather childish remarks such as 'Gin Palaces'.
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Searush
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Dear Glueblast,
Dear Doughboy,
I am currently reading Roger Taylor's "Voyages of a Simple Sailor" and enjoying it very much. He recently did a transatlantic passage on MingMing, a junk rigged 19' Corribee. he chose this vessel, not for financial reasons, but because he valued the principles of simplicity and self-sufficiency. At one point he comments something like "The satisfaction derived from walking up a hill or mountain far exceeds that from driving up it or getting a train". That is what I think you have lost sight of with all your toys & gismos.
Good luck to you, it wouldn't do if we were all the same, but do you see where I am coming from yet? Can you see the difference between waking up in a field in a tent rather than in an airconditioned hotel room? Or the involvement of cycling along country lanes rather than driving them in a car with the windows up & air-con running? Do you get it? Sailing using the elements in silence, feeling the breeze on your cheek & steering to it. Have you ever tried white water kayaking where you need to read, feel & use the water flow to survive? Gliding must be similar.
Oh, bugger, why do I bother? Of course you don't otherwise you wouldn't have given up sailing would you! Duh!
I loved that, a most excellent corruption.
Dear Doughboy,
I am currently reading Roger Taylor's "Voyages of a Simple Sailor" and enjoying it very much. He recently did a transatlantic passage on MingMing, a junk rigged 19' Corribee. he chose this vessel, not for financial reasons, but because he valued the principles of simplicity and self-sufficiency. At one point he comments something like "The satisfaction derived from walking up a hill or mountain far exceeds that from driving up it or getting a train". That is what I think you have lost sight of with all your toys & gismos.
Good luck to you, it wouldn't do if we were all the same, but do you see where I am coming from yet? Can you see the difference between waking up in a field in a tent rather than in an airconditioned hotel room? Or the involvement of cycling along country lanes rather than driving them in a car with the windows up & air-con running? Do you get it? Sailing using the elements in silence, feeling the breeze on your cheek & steering to it. Have you ever tried white water kayaking where you need to read, feel & use the water flow to survive? Gliding must be similar.
Oh, bugger, why do I bother? Of course you don't otherwise you wouldn't have given up sailing would you! Duh!
robertj
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Yes at a quiet anchorage down here in Cornwall I remarked how peaceful it was to my wife, at first she thought I was winding her up then realised that my hearing aids were off and the genny was roaring away much to the annoyance of nearby boaters.
sighmoon
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Are you really suggesting it's OK to waterski, waterjet (is that like a jetski?) and zoom the kids around in doughnut in a space being used by divers, snorkelers and swimmers?
Surely not, and surely that's the point.
DougH
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[QUOTE
Good luck to you, it wouldn't do if we were all the same,[/QUOTE]
At last we agree on something.
If only you was to implement that statement into your day to day thinking you might feel better and more relaxed.
Good luck to you, it wouldn't do if we were all the same,[/QUOTE]
At last we agree on something.
If only you was to implement that statement into your day to day thinking you might feel better and more relaxed.
DougH
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If I am the first and only boat moored in a Cala and the kids are having great fun on all the skis and towable toys and a dive boat enters the Cala are you suggesting we stop all activities.
I am a BSAC Class 2 trained and practising diver and I dive after taking into consideration all the circumstances at the time.
Everyone has a duty of care for their own safety and everyone has the same right to enjoy the Cala, Bay or anchorage as they wish.
sighmoon
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Not at all, if you only play with the fast toys if you are the first boat in the Cala, that's very responsable, and I commend your attitude.
blueglass
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This is an interesting slant on the argument. As a BSAC 2nd class diver myself (trumpet now laid aside) I would take one look at the cala full of whizzy toys and dive elsewhere. As someone looking for a quiet anchorage ( a more likely scenario) I would also take one look and go elsewhere, so that leads me to the question:
Does the first boat in the anchorage have the right to set the tone for subsequent boats??
