selling the slug and buying a mobo

[dylanwinter]

boorish

there you go again searush you just can't help yourself can you!

Why do you use the words "noisy flashy or boorish" as synonymous with mobo owners?
I also love mud creeks, seals, waders, lonely anchorages.
A love of nature doesn't excuse boorishness. And if you want a definition of boorishness crank up that broadband and tune into Dylan's ravings.

so let me just try to nail down what you feel

did I film boorishness?

or was I filming perfectly reasonable human being behaving in a reasonable way?

Dylan

 

[Searush]

Perhaps the mobo had to swerve to avoid a sailboat who tacked in front of him? Who knows?

Still think this is a mobo bashing thread.

No, it's a Dick Head bashing thread, sadly many of them happened to be "driving " MoBos . . . .

Don't take it personally Ricky, I'm sure you are not boorish or aggressive.

 

[ricky_s]

Don't take it personally Ricky, I'm sure you are not boorish or aggressive.

I don't take it personally mate.

 

[dylanwinter]

jolly good

I don't take it personally mate.

now let us let this thread sink

D

 

[Fire99]

This is another issue that is likely to go on forever.

I've been a Mobo owner (for about a decade) and am currently a Raggie and have found a few observations:

1) There are gits in all forms of water transport. There are also a lot of ladies and gents!
2) It is more 'obvious' and easier to piss people off in a MOBO, since going quickly and wash seem to be the biggest bug-bears for folk and it's far easier when you have a couple of hundred HP under your bottom.
3) Dare I say, and this is not directed at the good guys, it's easier for someone with a few quid but no skill (or consideration) to buy a Mobo and effectively try and drive it like a car, on the water. Sailing, good or bad, does take a bit of a knack to go anywhere.
4) Raggies don't get off the hook. There are some self-righteous arses out there who think that because they have sails, means that all other forms of water transport must keep out of their way and, dare I say, have telepathic powers to know when they are about to change direction. Strangely, that can also apply to other Raggies. (I don't seem to get any special treatment just because I have some sails up)
5) Some raggies like to show their 'skill' by seeing how close they can get to you before tacking. Whoopie doo. Congratulations. I'd rather not have to hold my breath, sitting on my mooring, hoping you've got your skills up to scratch, as you avoid me by about 6 ft. It's a big river.. Bugger Off!
6) The more I sail, the more my view of the water changes. Being on a Sailing boat, I start to appreciate the quiet and the relaxation of it all. Things that didn't use to bother me when I was a Mobo owner, do. Like PWC's passing a bit close and causing me to spill my tea. I think the nature of Sailing does tend to make you a bit intolerant of things that spoil the serenity.

7) Ensigns.. There seems to be some Ensign-Obsessed Raggies out there. Blue, being closer to the colour of the sea, clearly is higher up the ranking that a Red one. Well that is how it appears to SOME raggie folk. I never had Ensign-Snobbery with mobos.

So to conclude my somewhat generalised observations. If you have a Mobo then you're a hooray henry who blasts around everywhere at 30kts and doesn't give a damn.
If you're a Raggie, you're a pompous-arse who is sensitive about everything and owns the sea.

Cutting to the chase, if you could all please bugger off, I can get back to owning my Sea!

 

[alan_d]

Im not usually given to "imaginary constructions of my own mind"

Your mental life must be very dull.

 

[blueglass]

Your mental life must be very dull.

if cheap semantics are your best shot I won't bother arguing with you.

 

[blueglass]

so let me just try to nail down what you feel

did I film boorishness?

or was I filming perfectly reasonable human being behaving in a reasonable way?

Dylan

you filmed boorishness as I have already agreed with several times. I object to excess wash just as much as you do, and I never inflict it on others.
Its not so much what you filmed but what you said. Your voiceovers tend towards a boorishness of their very own.
You pour scorn in a generalised anti mobo rant, directed even at boats which are unoccupied. As far as I know, stationary boats tend not to create too much wash.
In your posh house sequence, you cluck over the flash house and the big car and feign disgust at the guy's (stationary) boat. etc etc
Just a bit schoolboy, really.

 

[Searush]

now let us let this thread sink

D

They ain't going to let it go are they, D?

 

[blueglass]

They ain't going to let it go are they, D?

that's because you don't understand what sensitive human beings we are. I cried myself to sleep last night. Actually I think I might start an anti yachtie rant over on the mobo forum. just to see if the raggies let it go

 

[NUTMEG]

Nothing on telly. Keep it up chaps, very entertaining. Like my local on a Wednesday eve. Thanks Dylan, and all the other contributors, great stuff!


Then again, perhaps I need to get out more?

 

[Ubergeekian]

Some motorboaters seem to be fairly unaware that other water users might have different priorities. As witness, for example, the chap on the motorboat forum who has just said that generators running are part of the ambience of anchorages and that anyone who wants peace and quiet should go to a marina.

 

[idpnd]

generators running are part of the ambience of anchorages

watching telly is just so much nicer in a delightful setting?

 

[dylanwinter]

aaaaagh!

Some motorboaters seem to be fairly unaware that other water users might have different priorities. As witness, for example, the chap on the motorboat forum who has just said that generators running are part of the ambience of anchorages and that anyone who wants peace and quiet should go to a marina.

Last summer Jill and I spent quite a few days on the Deben. It has one of the most delightful anchorages on the East Coast - The Rocks Steep to, lovely woodland for the sound of the birds, great walking, shingle beach, mud flats close by up at Goose Corner (my name not anyone elses) and every now and again as the sun goes down one of the local boats will ghost past in the gloom.

Lots of night time sailing on the Deben. Some excellent sailors on that river.

Then at just as it got dark some twassock put his generator on. As I sat in the cockpit three sailors got into their dinghies and from separate directions rowed over to the Twassock and slapped their hands on his hull.

The twassock could see that he was outnumbered - he lifted his hook and roared away - up the river once then back past at some speed just to make his point.

Peace settled around us like as blanket.

I have never been so proud of my fellow English sailors.

I would have filmed it all.... but it was dark.

 

[idpnd]

It's all relative isn't it- if you don't mind the diesel noise anyway, and you've been listening to 400 hp roar away all day, the generator probably sounds rather quiet to you

 

[Lucky Duck]

Some motorboaters seem to be fairly unaware that other water users might have different priorities. As witness, for example, the chap on the motorboat forum who has just said that generators running are part of the ambience of anchorages and that anyone who wants peace and quiet should go to a marina.

I thought it was another example of his posting style until he explained that his boat was so full power hungry equipment that it needed to be plugged into the national grid at all times

 

[dylanwinter]

canal boats

It's all relative isn't it- if you don't mind the diesel noise anyway, and you've been listening to 400 hp roar away all day, the generator probably sounds rather quiet to you

my brother has a canal boat

did spend a week on it once

it was nice -ish

especially if you sat at the front away from the engine

but it was bliss at the end of the day when you could turn the thing off

never done it again though

too noisy all round

D

 

[idpnd]

did 17 hours of motoring to get from dover to brighton the other day due to very little wind, cold, bit of current.. who would sit on a 6 mph tractor all day just to get from a to b? torturous..

and yes, i was sitting at the bow too..

when it gets warm and sunny i intend to just wait for wind no matter what

bit like crazy boguslaw

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article7095095.ece

 

[Fire99]

Last summer Jill and I spent quite a few days on the Deben. It has one of the most delightful anchorages on the East Coast - The Rocks Steep to, lovely woodland for the sound of the birds, great walking, shingle beach, mud flats close by up at Goose Corner (my name not anyone elses) and every now and again as the sun goes down one of the local boats will ghost past in the gloom.

Lots of night time sailing on the Deben. Some excellent sailors on that river.

Then at just as it got dark some twassock put his generator on. As I sat in the cockpit three sailors got into their dinghies and from separate directions rowed over to the Twassock and slapped their hands on his hull.

The twassock could see that he was outnumbered - he lifted his hook and roared away - up the river once then back past at some speed just to make his point.

Peace settled around us like as blanket.

I have never been so proud of my fellow English sailors.

I would have filmed it all.... but it was dark.

In that situation, Totally right. If you can't leave some of your home behind when you get on the boat, stay at home!

Not being funny, but it's not rocket science. It's just a bit of mutual respect. It's not Raggiest or Mobo-ist, it's just a bit of bleedin' politeness.

 

[dylanwinter]

well oiled operation

In that situation, Totally right. If you can't leave some of your home behind when you get on the boat, stay at home!

Not being funny, but it's not rocket science. It's just a bit of mutual respect. It's not Raggiest or Mobo-ist, it's just a bit of bleedin' politeness.

I think that it was something that happened frequently. I assume that the sailors knew each other and possibly had a short radio conversation between themselves

but it was the way they all arrived at the twassock from different boats at the same time that was so impressive

Dylan