Seaside Rescue

[BrendanS]

Just been watching this program on BBC1. Lots of action from Torbay lifeboat, Whisky Bravo helicopter and coastguards.

Anyone know the crew of the two boats that were towed in after running out of fuel! /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[pissativlypossed]

No, But the first one was a Jeanneau Merry Fisher 625. Did you notice the speedboat guys said they fired 3 flares in front of a raggie and were ignored. What does that tell you? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

 

[paulineb]

They thought it was 5 November ?

 

[mirage]

Not the 'victims', but I know some of the CG & Lifeboat crew featured.

 

[GeoffW]

Surely two of the rescues shown present a case for the RNLI charging for recovering the boats that ran out of fuel. Would you get a tow off the motorway for free?

 

[BrendanS]

No, don't agree with RNLI charging - where do you draw the line? The first boat ran out of fuel because the conditions became worse than expected - boderline understandable

 

[l'escargot]

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..they fired 3 flares in front of a raggie...

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What type of flares do you fire horizontally? From their whole attitude they didn't seem to have a clue or have the right equipment, it all seem to be one big joke to them.

 

[ShipsWoofy]

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Did you notice the speedboat guys said they fired 3 flares in front of a raggie and were ignored. What does that tell you? /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif

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That either the raggie crew did not see the flares or the raggie crew were idiots and should be brought in front of a quack for breaking the Merchant shipping laws by not helping to save lives at sea.

But, yes you are quite right, all raggies will sail on past a power boat in trouble because we hate you and feel so superior that we make a decision not to help. This way there is one less power boat with her nasty wakes to worry about.

Oh please, grow up! /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

 

[BrendanS]

Thank you. Said what I wanted to, but I'm just a crabbity old git

 

[Dave_Snelson]

>But, yes you are quite right, all raggies will sail on past a power boat in trouble because we hate you and feel so superior that we make a decision not to help. This way there is one less power boat with her nasty wakes to worry about.<

Hilarious - I like a laugh in the morning! Trouble is, that my last summers experience in a harbour not far from you, was just that. In truth it wasn't yotties that were ignoring this family's plight, it was everyone - yachts, mobos, jetskis etc.

BTW - glad to see my platform is still on! /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

 

[enterprise]

Perhaps they should have fired the last one at the raggie!
If nothing else it would have attracted others to a burning wreck!!

 

[Talbot]

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the speedboat guys said they fired 3 flares in front of a raggie and were ignored. What does that tell you?

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Tells me that they were pretty stupid. Have you ever fired a firework during the day and tried to see the results. A single flare in daylight is VERY difficult to see, that is what the day/night hand helds are for. A stream of orange smoke issueing from the boat would have been easy to observe and would have achieved the desired results. Firing a flare at the sails (which is what thet admitted to doing) was a real no-brainer they could easily have killed one of the crew of the yacht as the angular displacement between the sail and the crew would have been quite small, furthermore it could easily have hit the sail and set the boat alight, and also this angular shot would have dramatically reduced the time the flare was in the air and visual.

The two guys in the boat were doing very little to make the search easy , the TV showed them lying down onboard (?just waiting for rescue?) and it was very difficult to realise that the boat had a problem and was the one that the RNLI were searching for.

Surely it would be better to analyse the mistakes made, rather than slag off raggies.

 

[Wiggo]

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Surely it would be better to analyse the mistakes made, rather than slag off raggies.

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Yes, but where's the fun in that?

 

[Nat]

Hmm funnyone this.
I think running out of fuel is unforgivable, fair enough there are genuine cases, long passages & bad weather,split pipes ect. But Im sorry to say the few cases i have come across in the Med,small mobo's & jet skis have just been down to pure stupidity. no one on a short coastal trip should run out of fuel. Personally I always fill right up & dont feel comfortable if my gauge goes below half. We dont know the full story of the fishing boat so best give him the benifit of the doubt. But the speedboat. what idiots, not only running out of fuel but firing flares at other boats in broad daylight, havent they heard of radio, mobile phone, or standing up shouting & waving a jacket or something. to me they thought it all a big joke and I think people like this should be made to pay(financally) for their stupidity.I have had to be towed home twice once at night and never had to let off a flare once, always managing to attract another boat with radio or powerfull spotlight.
There are too many people who carry little or no safety equipment at all & some who have it and dont know how to use it, Everyone has to learn, but not at the risk of other peeps lives. .........rant over........Nat

 

[BrendanS]

They did have a radio, cos they said they had borrowed it from an RNLI crewman, but the battery went flat, so they were going to give him some stick about it.

 

[l'escargot]

So not only did they run out of fuel, they ran out of power for their radio and they also ran out of flares. Nor did they have any auxiliary means of propulsion. Then they criticised a raggie for not rescuing them......all on a summers day. Shining examples of which boating fraternity? I think I would be distancing myself from this pair of clowns.

 

[ChrisE]

You are far too polite, what else do you expect from dumbo mobos, us raggies would never run out of fuel would we?











except 1. coming into Poole harbour, 2 start of RTIR, 3 coming into Keyhaven. Other than that we've never run out of fuel.

 

[BrendanS]

Not defending them at all. I'm not impressed by people who run out of fuel, then expect RNLI to tow them in. There are sometimes mitigating circumstance to running out of fuel though, so don't judge everyone by that.

However, they had gone to the trouble to obtain a VHF from an RNLI crew member, who you would have expected to check the battery, and they did have flares, which they tried to obtain assistance from passing vessels. Running out of flares, when all the passing boats ignored or didn't see them, is hardly a cause to have a go at them, the recommended number of flares for an inshore boat is quite small - I'd carry many more, and do, but they probably only had the recommended number

Not sure how you'd put an auxillary on a boat that size?

 

[l'escargot]

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Not sure how you'd put an auxillary on a boat that size?

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Oars/Paddles?

 

[ShipsWoofy]

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Firing a flare at the sails (which is what thet admitted to doing) was a real no-brainer

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If anyone fired flares directly at my vessel, they would see my stern as I ran away. Or if in a really bad mood it might become a competition to see who has the most rockets!

I wonder if the yacht who had been fired on did not approach for fear of this bunch of clowns, though I would have put out a mayday and stated that I was under attack, but would not approach.

Did not see the program, so can only go from what is on here.

At the price for a set of sails, if someone fired a flare at them I would be ready to kill! /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif