Sealine F33

[Roy]

I took up motor boating about 4 years ago starting with a searay 215 then a maxum 2900. I plan to buy a usedSealine F33 on Kad 32s very soon and would like to hear any comments from those with any direct knowledge/experience of this kind of craft. I will use the boat on inland water to start with and then some saltwater work around the west coast of scotland when weather permits. One thing I would like to know is what would the fuel ecomomy be on these engines.

Hope to hear from someone soon? Thanks.

Roy

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[Wiggo]

We looked at the F33, and decided that it was not a significant enough change in volume from our Targa 29 to warrant the upgrade. We looked at a 360 Statesman/F36 for a while, before SWMBO went off the idea of a flybridge.

Fuel consumption... Those engines will be working hard to push that boat around, so I'd guess you'd cruise at maybe 10gph, flat out at perhaps 16gph?

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[Roy]

Hi Wiggo - thanks for the info on the F33 - much as I imagined anyway re the mpg anyway. I may find a good one with the 200hp engines but there again, I don't need much power for the conditions i will be using it in.


Roy

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[davedpc]

I have a sealine F33 shod with Mercruiser 22ohp with single prop. Bravo 2 legs. I get about 1.5 miles to the gallon at about 3ooo. The bigger engines dont cause any turbo lag but have 1 large ally prop. These engines wot at 3600 which is 2oo less than your 200hp. lumps. If i cruise at 20 knots i can get nearly 2 to the gallon. The duoprops should give you a slightly better economy. Best of luck with your purchase. Dave.

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[Roy]

HI Dave

Very nice to hear from you with your info on the merc engines on your 33. Thanks for that. What is it like living with / on the boat? How is the handling and berthing etc? Is there much noise when cruising? Getting really excited now as it won't be too long before I find the right boat and will obviously get a good drive on one before comitting to buy..

Cheers

Roy

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[peterandjeanette]

Hello Roy, welcome to the forum
I've had my F33 (with KAD 32's)for three years now - and I love it to bits. I keep her on the Thames at Windsor. Good for river cruising at weekends and easy access to the tideway for longer runs. Last years run was London - Dunkirk - Honfleur - and back. Also did London - Calais - Eastbourne - Chatham - London. She never let me down, and performed her socks off! This year plan to do London - Solent - Cherbourg - Dieppe - London.
There is normally only my wife and myself, but still room to spare if the kids want to join us. Wife insisted on proper "stairs" to flybridge as she has to carry the whiskey/gin/coffee upstairs. Only used inside helm once during heavy rain. No problems with noise. Cruises easily at 25 kts and will do 30 kts when pushed. (Two crew, full fuel and water).
Fuel consumption is within acceptable limits depending on engine revs. I do have - somewhere - actual performance figures. If you want, I'll search them out for you.
If you want more info, PM me. In a nutshell - go for it. Despite some knocks from some on this forum I love the F33.

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[Roy]

Hello Peter

Your reply and others have convinced me that I am right in buying this boat - when I get the right deal sorted out withing the next 8 weeks or less!! Loved the remarks about the gin/whisky/coffee - brilliant. You have really done some serious trips on yours and I am not yet at this stage I confess, having started boating somewhat late in life. I have grandkids now and the eldest boy is very keen on learning everything he can and I love taking him out with me. Delighted to note your figures on cruising speeds and the noise issue too. Happy boating to you and yours and thanks again for your kind help.

Roy

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[Renegade_Master]

Hi Roy, yes the F33 is a good choice for all the reasons mentioned already. We use an F36 on the school with twin KAMD43s, the only real difference between the two being 3ft so a bit more room, and the F36 having shafts, and slightly bigger engines. Although the F33 still sounds faster from whats been said.

She has performed well during our first teaching season, and we are happy with our choice. Good luck with you new hobby Clive



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[Roy]

Thanks Clive - we looked at the 36 and 37, but for economy on berthing and insurance etc, we opted for the 33, also becaue its a more gradual progression from a maxum2900. Appreciate your advice a lot. Many thanks. Roy

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[nicho]

Hi Roy, welcome to the forum. We had a new F33, which we too, initially used on the Thames. It was a cracking boat and we loved it. However, once we decided to take it to sea (based at Hythe, Southampton Water), Mrs Nicho found it was too "tippy" (her words), and she never felt secure on the flybridge, feeling that she might fall off (or was she afraid of being pushed off??!!). She was happier on the F36, which benefitted from being bigger, and of course with shafts, had a different weight distribution, but in the end we had to change to the S37 (it was that or go back to the Thames), on which she felt very secure. On that, she was happy enough to fall asleep crossing the Channel, or on passages down to the West Country!

Just something to bear in mind, 'cos I've known one or two other F33 owners who changed for the same reason.

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[Roy]

Hi Mike

Thanks for that. Must agree that the larger F 36/37 have a brilliant flybridge and therefore better in some respects. Perhaps I will progress there after the 33. I intend keeping mine on inland loch for 2 years anyway where wind gusts and slight chop is the only consideration really. A friend of mine told me that his 33 was great on turns and in in beamy seas providing he dug in the legs? Anyway - as always I appreciate all the advice from this great forum especially when everyone has much more knowledge than I do. Happy boating Mike and family. Roy

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[Moose]

Phantom 37?

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[stuartw]

Couldn't agree more with the consensus that the F33 seems a bit unstable. I have one berthed next to me in Portsmouth, and you would not believe the gyrations it does, even with a small amount of swell, so much so, that the owners wife refuses to sleep on board. The owner, who had an F37 and downsized, said it was the worst decision he's ever made. The other aspect is the outdrives. Close quarter manoeuvring is a bit of a nightmare, especially without a bow thruster.
I guess it would be ok in a lake or river environment, but taking it to anywhere with significant swell is not a good idea.
hope this helps.

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[oldgit]

Re: Not just the Sealine F33

Looking at some smallish flybridges myself at moment.Info on web indicates that 30 ft ish flys are all a bit swell/wind sensitive.Worse with legs.The fly bridge Princess 30 ds was not a runaway success and it was a heavish layup boat compared to some.Prob OK if upriver but you cannot go under low bridges,so whats the point of the thing.Recent comment on forum from owner of P 31.5 did say he found no problems.

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[Roy]

Thanks Stuart

Really appreciate your input and advice. It is valuable to gain the insight and knowledge of others on this forum.

Appreciated. Roy

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[Roy]

Re: Not just the Sealine F33

Many thanks for your input Old Git - Hate referring to your name as that - being of the same age group myself no doubt. All the input I have received is valuable and all remarks and opinions are being carefully considered.

Bye for now

Roy

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[Alistairr]

So how does the New F34, compare in the seas, to the old F33??



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[Deleted User YDKXO]

There's a big difference between the F36/37 and the F33, Clive, in that the F33 is a sterndrive boat rather than shaftdrive. Having had one of the F33's predecessors, I can testify that the F33 is a lot more tricky to manouvre at slow speed than a shaftdrive boat like the F36. It carries a large amount of windage for its waterline length and a bow thruster is almost essential. Also, as others have stated, the F33 feels a bit twitchy at speed in certain sea conditions although its not in any way dangerous whereas the F36 is known as being a good seaboat
I'm always surprised that Sealine have sold so many of this type of boat but then it does offer a lot of boat for the money which looks good at a boat show. Its only after you own it do you find out its shortcomings

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[Renegade_Master]

yes Mike in stating that the "36 has shafts" I was stating that the F33 has stern drives, if you know what I mean. I do bow to your superior knowledge of the the F33, as I have not been on one. Amazing what a different a few feet and different drives make.
Your also write in the the F36/37 is an excellent seas boat.

We had a customer just before xmas who wanted ICC, and as his boat, an F33, was only in Banus I suggested "own boat" tuition due to the difference in shaft & stern and given that he needed to be used to his.



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[ulava]

hi Roy
i was reading your post , and see that you are looking at s 37-f37 if you wud like to, you are more than welcome to come up to plockton and iwill take you ot on my boat to give some idea of how she handels. just pm me and set a date

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