Schengen Visa - 90/180 rule

sailaboutvic said:
People here who now live else where and can't wait to put the boot in every time the uk does some thing not to there likening think just because the UK and pig minded that the EU going to take it out on people who travel , being cruisers or what ever , I don't think the EU that Pette .
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Agreed but they won’t help us either - 90 in 180 or some complicated residency thing. Or full EU citizenship ideally.
 
nortada said:
Once again EU residency is the get out of jail card.

The warnings have been around since that referendum over 4 years back so I can’t understand any long term British traveller not moving heaven and earth to get EU residency but I keep meeting people who can’t be bothered.

I think the crunch time will come next summer when boats set off on their summer adventures.
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Maybe because our "leaders" (and I use that term loosely) have been telling us for most of those four years that we will get a deal, the easiest deal in history, an oven-ready deal, because we hold all the cards, we will have our cake and eat it, and everything is going to be fine.
 
Kelpie said:
Maybe because our "leaders" (and I use that term loosely) have been telling us for most of those four years that we will get a deal, the easiest deal in history, an oven-ready deal, because we hold all the cards, we will have our cake and eat it, and everything is going to be fine.
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But it was always "take back control of our borders" a tricky situation so there has to be tricky rules to fit.

As nortada say's . . . . . Once again EU residency is the get out of jail card.
 
grumpygit said:
But it was always "take back control of our borders" a tricky situation so there has to be tricky rules to fit.

As nortada say's . . . . . Once again EU residency is the get out of jail card.
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I still don’t think that’s true for cruisers. Fine if you have a base country for years and enjoy 90 days out of it at a time. But if you change countries most years as we do then residency isn’t possible.
 
RupertW said:
I still don’t think that’s true for cruisers. Fine if you have a base country for years and enjoy 90 days out of it at a time. But if you change countries most years as we do then residency isn’t possible.
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EU residency brings a lot more benefits than just than the opportunity for greater travel but staying with travel.

If you do not have EU residency, because of the UK’s geographic position, in effect, unless you want a marathon every time, you will be limited to 90 days in any 180 In Northern Europe (Northern European weather), possibly the need to comply with ETIAS/visas (#93) etc. and get private health cover.

EU residency, will permit you to base your boat in Southern Europe with unlimited time in your host country and the opportunity to cruise for up to 90 days in any 180 in nearby EU states, with a EHIC provided by your host country.

I accept that you will not be able to regularly change your EU operating base but you can make use of nearby non-EU states to modify your cruising profile. From observation, over a number of years, based in a single EU country and cruising the summer 3 months appears to meets the aspirations of the majority of Brit sailors in the EU.

As Vic has observed, for cruisers who wish to continually change their operating base, with a bit of thought and planning, it should be still possible to do this, For example the Turkish/Greek option or Morocco and Tunisia and other friendly non-EU states in the Med.

As I said at the beginning, EU residency brings a lot more benefits than just travel so I agree with Vic, getting EU residency anywhere, while you still can, could be a smart move and not just for sailors but all other would be longer-term travellers in the EU.
 
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Well I have ponded on the problem all night and came up with a solution . I'm going to apply for residency in Spain, Portugal, Greece,Italy , have I miss some where :) .
I don't know it's all a fu@k up which ever way you look at it , I sure for cruisers and I use the word cruisers we find a way around it .
Unless by some bad luck on our part and every country boost up check on boat by 2000% and more for people like my self who don't hit a marina only for a few months a year keeping our head under the radar like so many do is the only option has residency isn't has I said before . And if it mean moving from EU to non EU country's so be it .

But let me make this clear if your a liveaboard that spend most of his time in one country as the like of Graham and Nortada residency is the best way forward .
 
RupertW said:
I still don’t think that’s true for cruisers. Fine if you have a base country for years and enjoy 90 days out of it at a time. But if you change countries most years as we do then residency isn’t possible.
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Unfortunately rules seldom fits all, I don't think for a moment Frost or Barnier have cruisers at the top of their list or more to the point they probably never will.
Residency is the only safe guard one has to hand at the moment and it's easy enough to do and costs nothing here in Greece and it takes about 10days to process.
2 x passport photo's, current (UK) EHIC card and the rest of the requirements you will have to adapt as needed.

There is an abundance of sites but I think all your questions can be answered on here. Living in Greece & Brexit
 
grumpygit said:
Unfortunately rules seldom fits all, I don't think for a moment Frost or Barnier have cruisers at the top of their list or more to the point they probably never will.
Residency is the only safe guard one has to hand at the moment and it's easy enough to do and costs nothing here in Greece and it takes about 10days to process.
2 x passport photo's, current (UK) EHIC card and the rest of the requirements you will have to adapt as needed.

There is an abundance of sites but I think all your questions can be answered on here. Living in Greece & Brexit
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See what I posted in the other thread
 
sailaboutvic said:
I was reply re Greece , thread on Greek residency there a number and email address of someone who can help them with applying
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No need for help to be required, it is such a very easy process and can be done at the immigration dept which is usually within the main police stations in larger towns. We used the one at Nafplio, one single page to fill out which takes all of 5 minutes.
 
grumpygit said:
Unfortunately rules seldom fits all, I don't think for a moment Frost or Barnier have cruisers at the top of their list or more to the point they probably never will.
Residency is the only safe guard one has to hand at the moment and it's easy enough to do and costs nothing here in Greece and it takes about 10days to process.
2 x passport photo's, current (UK) EHIC card and the rest of the requirements you will have to adapt as needed.

There is an abundance of sites but I think all your questions can be answered on here. Living in Greece & Brexit
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I’m fine so won’t have to go down the useful but very limiting residency route - just wish there was a better solution for people who have to stay British passport holders.
 
RupertW said:
I’m fine so won’t have to go down the useful but very limiting residency route - just wish there was a better solution for people who have to stay British passport holders.
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Unfortunately it's all we have at hand for the time been. You can move all your tax affairs to Greece for a one off base rate of 7% and thus becoming a permanent resident.
Hell will have to freeze before I attempt this one.
 
grumpygit said:
Unfortunately it's all we have at hand for the time been. You can move all your tax affairs to Greece for a one off base rate of 7% and thus becoming a permanent resident.
Hell will have to freeze before I attempt this one.
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That 7% hasn't yet been agreed, it's only at the consultation phase. It's only for 10 years too.
 
Tony Cross said:
That 7% hasn't yet been agreed, it's only at the consultation phase. It's only for 10 years too.
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'Permanent residency@ in Portugal is for 10 years. Then you have to renew it, which currently seems a fairly straight forward procedure; as to cost - don't know. Now doubt somebody will be along to clarify this.
 
grumpygit said:
Why would you be making this out that it's a difficult process that needs a specialist when it's probably the easiest piece of bureaucracy you can find in Greece
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I'm not making it out to be any thing , just pass on a into so if someone's need help know who can ,help them , by the way I have no connection at all to this person .
Your posting don't give much if I may say other then go to the local police station ,
I see you didn't offer your address to be use for follow cruisers:) this lady May have better infohow to get around it as she help how quite a few people .
 
sailaboutvic said:
I'm not making it out to be any thing , just pass on a into so if someone's need help know who can ,help them , by the way I have no connection at all to this person .
Your posting don't give much if I may say other then go to the local police station ,
I see you didn't offer your address to be use for follow cruisers:) this lady May have better infohow to get around it as she help how quite a few people .
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It doesn't take much of an imagination to conjure up an address but there is no way I would put it in print on here or anywhere else.
Why would I offer my address wbtw is already at full occupancy when you imply your lady to get around it, but fair enough if people want to waste their money and pay for such a simple process let them crack on with it.
 
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