ghostlymoron
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The thing i don't like about dinette layouts (not the sadler version) is the lack of sea berths. Still looking at sadler 29s.
sadler 29
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johnalison
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Our experience was that the starboard single berth was fine, with its lee cloth and the port double also worked reasonably since the table worked as a lee cloth. I'm talking about sailing in moderate conditions, summer sailing in the channel and North Sea. The saloon was much more comfortable than aft-cabin boats such as the Westerly Merlin, which had very narrow cabin berths.
Seajet
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You're not joking about narrow berths; when I bought a Carter 30 years ago I made the fatal mistake of going by appearances, not lying down on the bunks.
The saloon berths turned out to be awkwardly narrow, now if I was considering a boat I'd definitely try lying around.
However the dinette berth would still make a useful single sea berth, it isn't that difficult to organise.
The saloon berths turned out to be awkwardly narrow, now if I was considering a boat I'd definitely try lying around.
However the dinette berth would still make a useful single sea berth, it isn't that difficult to organise.
PeteCooper
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I have a dinette and 2 very secure seaberths on my 26 footer.
ghostlymoron
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What boat do you have Pete?
sailorman
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check Pete`s Bio
DJE
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I've been sailing a Sadler 29 twin keeler for about 13 years now doing about 1000 miles per year from Calais to Plymouth on this side and Honfleur to the Morbihan on the other side. We invariably sail with the infill panel and cushion in place next to the table making a secure sea berth on either tack. Occasionally I use the lee cloth on the starboard single berth if I want a sea berth on that side. The quarter berth is also an excellent sea berth but getting in and out is a bit of a mission.
Scomber
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yep-agree entirely-i love being snug down the quarter berth with others on watch-easy to keep an eye on things at the chart table if needed
fastjedi
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We looked at one for sale in 2009 (last but one built in Poole) The table had been removed and sold off! If I remember correctly, its a bit of a pain to squeeze your legs past the table leg on some S29's?
I never fitted a table in my 29 (semi-kit from new) and have never missed not having one. Indeed I would now find the cabin extremely cramped and awkward at sea if I did have one!
Agree with comments about the galley. About the only feature I would really fault......though it has never actually hindered cooking, and I prefer to wash-up on deck anyway.
Steps: yes, you get so used to going down facing forwards (as you would anywhere other than a boat) that when you go aboard a 'normal' boat you are in danger of going head-over-heals(original design with massive companionway/engine-cover moulding .......later boats have a more traditional 'ladder')
SUNDASH, Sadler29, 1984
ghostlymoron
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Ecume de mer
http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/ecume-de-mer/ecume-de-mer.htm
Pete's boat doesn't tick all my boxes although she looks good and has good reviews as well as being cheap.
I'm after a bilge keeler with reasonable sea berths and aft galley. Sadler 29 seems to fit the bill although I'm sure there are others.
http://www.yachtsnet.co.uk/archives/ecume-de-mer/ecume-de-mer.htm
Pete's boat doesn't tick all my boxes although she looks good and has good reviews as well as being cheap.
I'm after a bilge keeler with reasonable sea berths and aft galley. Sadler 29 seems to fit the bill although I'm sure there are others.
readings
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Our S29 (1988) has a sloping bulkhead between cabin and cockpit, which makes for much better access to galley and quarter berth than on earlier boats. Very pleased with it!
Richard, S29 "Painted Lady"
Richard, S29 "Painted Lady"
DJE
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There have been several changes to the deck moulding over the years. The sloping bulkhead was one of the first; it improved access to the galley, chart table and quarter berth but slightly reduced the size of the cockpit. Then some time in the 80s a third window was added each side to give more light in the saloon. And some of the very latest ones had a recess added to the toerail to drain the puddle that tends to form there and these boats were also fitted with proper midships mooring cleats. Mine was built in 1989 and it has the first two modifications but not the third.
