DavidJ
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For stern-to mooring (in the Med) is there any preference for warp damping. I've seen spring dampers and the rubber torsion ones.
what's best and what lasts
David
what's best and what lasts
David
Rubber or Spring warp dampers
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billskip
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the rubber ones are quiet...metal springs squeek and cause noise in aft cabins
Bill
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byron
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Other things that squeak in aft cabins: mice, 17 year old swedish blue eyed blonde sex maniacs, me when I see what my missus has spent on frivolities and me when mates ask "what are you a man or a mouse?"
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Re: med spring/rubber
For larger boats, the preferred method is using springs. By larger, I mean 40foot plus. The rubber things are ok, but the boat is stillatached to the quay by rope, whuich will wear.
The standard spec is chain around quayside bollards or rings. The chain is shackled to a spring, the ropes themselves attached to the spring with a proper metal "eye" and spliced back, and to the other end on the rearmost horizontal cleats (not any angled ones, which aren't as strong in the horizontal plane)
Rubber tensioner thinsg are ok, but the rope wears. Clever-clever new-design springs whereby the rope passes thru the metal springs also have a tenedency to come apart, or at least mine did and they cost 50 quid each. Whereas olde style springs are the decent gear.
If the boat is chained for a long time, or if you need padlocks cos it's dodgy, have bolt crops to snip it. Naturally, when mooring for only a few days instead of a few weeks or months, you don't need the squeaky springs.
Because other people on the quay will have springs which rust, you also need a tin of spray grease to lash on their springs if you plan any sleeping.
For larger boats, the preferred method is using springs. By larger, I mean 40foot plus. The rubber things are ok, but the boat is stillatached to the quay by rope, whuich will wear.
The standard spec is chain around quayside bollards or rings. The chain is shackled to a spring, the ropes themselves attached to the spring with a proper metal "eye" and spliced back, and to the other end on the rearmost horizontal cleats (not any angled ones, which aren't as strong in the horizontal plane)
Rubber tensioner thinsg are ok, but the rope wears. Clever-clever new-design springs whereby the rope passes thru the metal springs also have a tenedency to come apart, or at least mine did and they cost 50 quid each. Whereas olde style springs are the decent gear.
If the boat is chained for a long time, or if you need padlocks cos it's dodgy, have bolt crops to snip it. Naturally, when mooring for only a few days instead of a few weeks or months, you don't need the squeaky springs.
Because other people on the quay will have springs which rust, you also need a tin of spray grease to lash on their springs if you plan any sleeping.
ccscott49
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The metal ones squeak and rust like blazes, the rubber ones are fine for smaller boats. I use a couple of double ended 10" x 30" fenders, with the rope wrapped around them a few times and through the holes, if the holes are not big enough for the mooring warps, a couple of shakles or ropes tied to the mooring warp work fine, no sqeuaks, no rust, muti-purpose and cheap.
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David
I have no experience of stern-to mooring but the recent storms busted a real big one of those dog bone shape rubber dubries in my mooring line. Having wound the rope round it several times before the break I then found out just how much slack that then allows when unwound. Quite surprising - well beyond my jumping distance.
So I've now got a couple of the straight ones with holes in to avoid a repetition. Seem good so far......
A neighbour who has been using the spring steel ones has dumped them because they make a noise like a mouth organ.
Hope this is what you really wanted to know!
Bernard
I have no experience of stern-to mooring but the recent storms busted a real big one of those dog bone shape rubber dubries in my mooring line. Having wound the rope round it several times before the break I then found out just how much slack that then allows when unwound. Quite surprising - well beyond my jumping distance.
So I've now got a couple of the straight ones with holes in to avoid a repetition. Seem good so far......
A neighbour who has been using the spring steel ones has dumped them because they make a noise like a mouth organ.
Hope this is what you really wanted to know!
Bernard
hlb
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Re: med spring/rubber
Dont use them my self but old tyres seem very effective and your not likely to break them.
Haydn
Dont use them my self but old tyres seem very effective and your not likely to break them.
Haydn
ccscott49
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Re: med spring/rubber
We use giant tyres from BIG diggers on the rig for doing the same thing for supply boats, but on a princess in the med, nah! I don't think so!
We use giant tyres from BIG diggers on the rig for doing the same thing for supply boats, but on a princess in the med, nah! I don't think so!
DavidJ
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Re: Rubber or Spring warp dampers-thanks
Thanks for a great response and even for the one I was hoping for from Byron
David
Thanks for a great response and even for the one I was hoping for from Byron
David
hlb
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Re: med spring/rubber
Well allot of the raggy things in my marina seem to use them. OK not earth moving but small car type. I'm impressed by them they seem to work.
Haydn
Well allot of the raggy things in my marina seem to use them. OK not earth moving but small car type. I'm impressed by them they seem to work.
Haydn
ccscott49
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Re: med spring/rubber
They certainly work, you want to see them stretch out here! Maybe a go cart type would be adequate for most smaller boats.
They certainly work, you want to see them stretch out here! Maybe a go cart type would be adequate for most smaller boats.