Round Britain day 113 Southampton Boat Show

[LONG_KEELER]

Just wondering of people who might give the trip a go sometime in the future from a financial perspective.

I'm thinking 100 nights berthing at say £30 per night amounting to around for your length of yacht £3k .

I suppose more eating out than normal plus diesel and ancillaries. Perhaps a hire car also for about a week for a trip home and back.

I'm thinking best to budget around £4.5k less what you would have spent anyway.

About right ?

 

[benjenbav]

Just wondering of people who might give the trip a go sometime in the future from a financial perspective.

I'm thinking 100 nights berthing at say £30 per night amounting to around for your length of yacht £3k .

I suppose more eating out than normal plus diesel and ancillaries. Perhaps a hire car also for about a week for a trip home and back.

I'm thinking best to budget around £4.5k less what you would have spent anyway.

About right ?

I suspect you’d want to double that to include the inventory that you’d reinforce before setting off. Obviously, those sorts of things would be treated as ‘off-balance sheet’ for many of us.

 

[Blueboatman]

I fully expect the fully savvy ‘ blonde’ to adroitly turn this around and give the OP some serious customer service grief, even an impromptu super soaker hose down , watch out Roger?
You want leaks , we’ll show you leaks etc etc .

I expect they all 3know each other quite well and what comes over as mebbe a bit over the top to us is actually in-house banter between business mates ? Well I expect there’s quite a bit of that in there..
And it’ll all be good advertising for the water system suppliers to boot ..
Hope so
And moving on,
Congratulations on the PBO articles invite. Deservedly so ?
You write really well and during a busy , enjoyable but boatless summer it’s been a real pleasure sailing along vicariously with your boat - and without the leaky oilskins too !??

 

[Daydream believer]

Just wondering of people who might give the trip a go sometime in the future from a financial perspective.

I'm thinking 100 nights berthing at say £30 per night amounting to around for your length of yacht £3k .

I suppose more eating out than normal plus diesel and ancillaries. Perhaps a hire car also for about a week for a trip home and back.

I'm thinking best to budget around £4.5k less what you would have spent anyway.

About right ?

I went through the Cally canal in 2012 & 2014 SH both times . So I cheated on a full circumnavigation. Cost inc charts & pilot books came to £3500 first time & almost the same second time . I already had charts & books for 1/3 of the trip. I also had Roger Oliver's book about sailing round UK beforehand, which I found invaluable.
I never anchored & both times I did it in circa 9-10 weeks -not inc stay in CIs to holiday for 2 weeks when my wife & daughter visited me. Then the second time when I lost my rudder near Inverness & had wait fora replacement for 3-4 weeks . Both times I included the CIs as I sailed the French coast to avoid the Solent, plus it is cheaper, more of a holiday feel & easier sailing.. I felt going to the CIs made up for not going round the top!!!.From there I crossed to Falmouth.
I did 6 legs over 100 miles which meant I was able to pick ports with 24 hour access. Thus avoid anchoring.
Marina harbour fees were a lot less than I expected & my wife paid for the bit in the CIs the first time. I would imagine fees much higher now. I did not buy detailed charts , only Imray "C" passage ones, plus Reeds. That is all one needs. I did not have a chart plotter or electronic charts first time round. I found navigation to be very easy, apart from the Humber& the little bit from Northern Ireland to Fort William via Croab Haven. Even then one can do most of the navigation by looking out of the cockpit, using the tide & watching the state of the water over rocks etc. . I am based in the Thames so that bit is a doddle to me.
If you do not spend excessive amounts on meals out, then £4.5K will cover it Ok & if you share fuel & marina fees with another crew member then cost sharing is of benefit to both . From memory I visited approx 25 port on the way round. The dearest was Falmouth. The rest was in the £22-00 per night region the french ones less. One spends more on fuel that would like to admit & everyone I have spoken to agrees that 30% of the time can be spent motoring. Entering & leaving ports can take a while & is usually done under power. Somewhere like Dover can delay one by 30-40 minutes from approach to tying up.Then 20 mins getting out & an hour has been spent. The Cally canal will take 4 days. More to be appreciated. Virtually all under power, apart perhaps for Loch Ness. I think that the license for the canal was about £180 for a week . One would need to check current cost. There are tidal gates to meet & one should not shy from using the engine.

 

[Blueboatman]

I went through the Cally canal in 2012 & 2014 SH both times . So I cheated on a full circumnavigation. Cost inc charts & pilot books came to £3500 first time & almost the same second time . I already had charts & books for 1/3 of the trip. I also had Roger Oliver's book about sailing round UK beforehand, which I found invaluable.
I never anchored & both times I did it in circa 9-10 weeks -not inc stay in CIs to holiday for 2 weeks when my wife & daughter visited me. Then the second time when I lost my rudder near Inverness & had wait fora replacement for 3-4 weeks . Both times I included the CIs as I sailed the French coast to avoid the Solent, plus it is cheaper, more of a holiday feel & easier sailing.. I felt going to the CIs made up for not going round the top!!!.From there I crossed to Falmouth.
I did 6 legs over 100 miles which meant I was able to pick ports with 24 hour access. Thus avoid anchoring.
Marina harbour fees were a lot less than I expected & my wife paid for the bit in the CIs the first time. I would imagine fees much higher now. I did not buy detailed charts , only Imray "C" passage ones, plus Reeds. That is all one needs. I did not have a chart plotter or electronic charts first time round. I found navigation to be very easy, apart from the Humber& the little bit from Northern Ireland to Fort William via Croab Haven. Even then one can do most of the navigation by looking out of the cockpit, using the tide & watching the state of the water over rocks etc. . I am based in the Thames so that bit is a doddle to me.
If you do not spend excessive amounts on meals out, then £4.5K will cover it Ok & if you share fuel & marina fees with another crew member then cost sharing is of benefit to both . From memory I visited approx 25 port on the way round. The dearest was Falmouth. The rest was in the £22-00 per night region the french ones less. One spends more on fuel that would like to admit & everyone I have spoken to agrees that 30% of the time can be spent motoring. Entering & leaving ports can take a while & is usually done under power. Somewhere like Dover can delay one by 30-40 minutes from approach to tying up.Then 20 mins getting out & an hour has been spent. The Cally canal will take 4 days. More to be appreciated. Virtually all under power, apart perhaps for Loch Ness. I think that the license for the canal was about £180 for a week . One would need to check current cost. There are tidal gates to meet & one should not shy from using the engine.

Some really pertinent info there
I had forgotten you had rudder saga on one circuit ?
Falmouth expensive ! Yup ? Anchoring too, sadly

 

[SaltyC]

“Also I had a bit of fun on the ASAP stand. Last year a young lady who was organising all of the new water system and Mark who was there for first time, both came aboard as Concerto was on the marina. Well Mark remembered me, but the young lady will arrive on Tuesday. So Mark sent a text that someone was annoyed she was not there as he had a complaint. Then Mark took a selfie of both of us and another workmate. Finally he suggest that due to the problem she had caused, instead of taking 2 days to get from Chatham to the Hamble, it had taken 112 days to arrive. In the morning I should know her reaction, but Mark is not going let on what happened. So on Tuesday I am going to try to be there as she arrives with an angry face. Being a blonde, she is quite gullable and Mark expects her to worry until Tuesday about this problem and to fall for it”.

I’m sorry, but I fail to see the funny side. In my opinion that scheme is both sexist and immature. Such a disappointment In a generally excellent account of your exploits.

Mike

Roger,
I appear to be in the minority, or my SOH is as warped as yours. I thought the post was to your usual standard one needs light hearted banter not the Woke oooh you can't say that.

Tuesday is where it will come to a climax and hopefully she has a sense of humour - better still, she reads the forum (or her colleague has informed her) and she plays along and takes you for a ride.

People now are toooo serious.

 

[LONG_KEELER]

Obviously, those sorts of things would be treated as ‘off-balance sheet’ for many of us.

Of course. Not included i.e. new sails, plotter,autohelm upgrade, interior revamp, spare starter motor, alternator etc

 

[LONG_KEELER]

I went through the Cally canal in 2012 & 2014 SH both times . So I cheated on a full circumnavigation. Cost inc charts & pilot books came to £3500 first time & almost the same second time . I already had charts & books for 1/3 of the trip. I also had Roger Oliver's book about sailing round UK beforehand, which I found invaluable.
I never anchored & both times I did it in circa 9-10 weeks -not inc stay in CIs to holiday for 2 weeks when my wife & daughter visited me. Then the second time when I lost my rudder near Inverness & had wait fora replacement for 3-4 weeks . Both times I included the CIs as I sailed the French coast to avoid the Solent, plus it is cheaper, more of a holiday feel & easier sailing.. I felt going to the CIs made up for not going round the top!!!.From there I crossed to Falmouth.
I did 6 legs over 100 miles which meant I was able to pick ports with 24 hour access. Thus avoid anchoring.
Marina harbour fees were a lot less than I expected & my wife paid for the bit in the CIs the first time. I would imagine fees much higher now. I did not buy detailed charts , only Imray "C" passage ones, plus Reeds. That is all one needs. I did not have a chart plotter or electronic charts first time round. I found navigation to be very easy, apart from the Humber& the little bit from Northern Ireland to Fort William via Croab Haven. Even then one can do most of the navigation by looking out of the cockpit, using the tide & watching the state of the water over rocks etc. . I am based in the Thames so that bit is a doddle to me.
If you do not spend excessive amounts on meals out, then £4.5K will cover it Ok & if you share fuel & marina fees with another crew member then cost sharing is of benefit to both . From memory I visited approx 25 port on the way round. The dearest was Falmouth. The rest was in the £22-00 per night region the french ones less. One spends more on fuel that would like to admit & everyone I have spoken to agrees that 30% of the time can be spent motoring. Entering & leaving ports can take a while & is usually done under power. Somewhere like Dover can delay one by 30-40 minutes from approach to tying up.Then 20 mins getting out & an hour has been spent. The Cally canal will take 4 days. More to be appreciated. Virtually all under power, apart perhaps for Loch Ness. I think that the license for the canal was about £180 for a week . One would need to check current cost. There are tidal gates to meet & one should not shy from using the engine.

Fantastic report.

 

[Daydream believer]

Of course. Not included i.e. new sails, plotter,autohelm upgrade, interior revamp, spare starter motor, alternator etc

Oddly enough I met no fewer than 3 boats on my circumnavigations, that had failed fuel pumps & were waiting for new ones to be delivered. One for a Volvo cost about £ 70 at the time, plus postage . I was also concerned that I may have one go in foreign shores. To counter this, I found a supplier doing a special offer on one to fit my engine for £ 32 delivered, so I took the opportunity to get one & carry it with me. I also have had glow relay issues from time to time, so I carry a spare . Then, of course the usual bits, . But I would not go as far as spare starter motor & alternator . That is a bit over the top. But my alternator has been serviced a couple of times.
A friend of mine with an identical boat to me, has just done a single handed cruise- Ostend, Scarborough, Peterhead, Stavanger, Borkum, Ostend. As he left Scarborough he slipped & somehow kicked his Raymarine autohelm ram overboard. Fortunately he had wind steering & used that until Stavanger, where his wife delivered a replacement. I carry a spare, having had numerous issues.
Regarding preparation. My boat is always kept reasonably equipped & I could start a circumnavigation tomorrow, (once the coppercoat has been jetwashed again). It is just me that is the weak link

 

[Concerto]

“Also I had a bit of fun on the ASAP stand. Last year a young lady who was organising all of the new water system and Mark who was there for first time, both came aboard as Concerto was on the marina. Well Mark remembered me, but the young lady will arrive on Tuesday. So Mark sent a text that someone was annoyed she was not there as he had a complaint. Then Mark took a selfie of both of us and another workmate. Finally he suggest that due to the problem she had caused, instead of taking 2 days to get from Chatham to the Hamble, it had taken 112 days to arrive. In the morning I should know her reaction, but Mark is not going let on what happened. So on Tuesday I am going to try to be there as she arrives with an angry face. Being a blonde, she is quite gullable and Mark expects her to worry until Tuesday about this problem and to fall for it”.

I’m sorry, but I fail to see the funny side. In my opinion that scheme is both sexist and immature. Such a disappointment In a generally excellent account of your exploits.

Mike

You have never worked on a stand at any show. This sort of activity goes on all the time amongst stand holders. The young lady will have a laugh together on Tuesday. Today I found out a small detail about Mark and used it to wind him up. He guessed I was behind the friend I used to set him up. When I saw him in the late afternoon, we laughed about it and told him I was telling my blonde friend. She will laugh about it.

Sorry Mike, you do not have the same sense of humour, that is if you have any sense of humour.

 

[Concerto]

Just wondering of people who might give the trip a go sometime in the future from a financial perspective.

I'm thinking 100 nights berthing at say £30 per night amounting to around for your length of yacht £3k .

I suppose more eating out than normal plus diesel and ancillaries. Perhaps a hire car also for about a week for a trip home and back.

I'm thinking best to budget around £4.5k less what you would have spent anyway.

About right ?

When I have finished the trip I was going to work out the total cost and to make a final post covering the good bits, the bad bits, the best places I had visited and ones I would not return to, plus a breakdown of all the costs.

There were only a few times I ate out, usually in a a cafe for a brunch or lunch, never any meals in the evening. I did have fish & chips a number of evenings and once a Chinese takeaway. As to transport I used buses on one day and trains on one day, and no car hire. It all sounds quite boring to many ofyou, but during my working life I did a lot of travelling and staying in hotels, so eating alone is something I got used to doing and now avoid doing it in public.

 

[lustyd]

The WOA members handbook lists over 400 Centaurs, Chieftains and Pembrokes (they all shared the same hull design) that are members of the Association, which is is a surprising small number of the 2444 built. It would take some time from the members handbook to trace where these are all now berthed. Today I was talking with a gentleman who keeps his Centaur in Majorca.

The Facebook group for Centaurs has 1100 members so may be a good place to start. Our 36.2 group on Facebook accounts for almost every hull so it’s a great way to interact, probably replacing old style owner associations.

 

[lustyd]

When I have finished the trip I was going to work out the total cost and to make a final post covering the good bits, the bad bits, the best places I had visited and ones I would not return to, plus a breakdown of all the costs.

There were only a few times I ate out, usually in a a cafe for a brunch or lunch, never any meals in the evening. I did have fish & chips a number of evenings and once a Chinese takeaway. As to transport I used buses on one day and trains on one day, and no car hire. It all sounds quite boring to many ofyou, but during my working life I did a lot of travelling and staying in hotels, so eating alone is something I got used to doing and now avoid doing it in public.

We did that after our two month trip this summer. We budgeted £1000 per month for two of us and spent…More. Eating out and drinking we’re the largest expenditures by a long way including diesel and marinas. I suspect your numbers will be considerably more reasonable and I’d certainly be interested.

 

[Pye_End]

Just wondering of people who might give the trip a go sometime in the future from a financial perspective.

I'm thinking 100 nights berthing at say £30 per night amounting to around for your length of yacht £3k .

I suppose more eating out than normal plus diesel and ancillaries. Perhaps a hire car also for about a week for a trip home and back.

I'm thinking best to budget around £4.5k less what you would have spent anyway.

About right ?

Went round this year (Caledonian Canal) - 8 weeks. Mooring fees about £25 to £36 per night (usually sub £30) for 26 foot boat. Ate on board majority of nights (similar cost to eating at home - ie not an extra cost). Some overnight sails, and some on the hook - so money saved went into an extra 'eating out' fund! No real boat repair costs needed. Caledonian Canal and Crinan pass quite a bit - got the combined 14 day pass. Diesel - motored a fair bit south and west coast due to weather. Difficult one to budget on. Depends I think on length of passages - the desire to get on with it, and luck with the weather. Probably rather less than half of your £4.5k, but smaller boat and shorter time.

 

[Ribtecer]

I was out today on the Hamble, and went to see Concerto at Mercury.

After 113 days, she looks fantastic and they put you in a well protected birth.

On the subject of costs of the trip, are your would be costs at home not to be deducted from the trips finals costs?

I will miss these updated when your trip is finally over.

Many thanks.

 

[Concerto]

I was out today on the Hamble, and went to see Concerto at Mercury.

After 113 days, she looks fantastic and they put you in a well protected birth.

On the subject of costs of the trip, are your would be costs at home not to be deducted from the trips finals costs?

I will miss these updated when your trip is finally over.

Many thanks.

If you looked closer you would have seen varnish that needs some work. Overall Concerto is in pretty good condition as I have not cleaned her externally or hosed her down to get rid of salt on the decks. Internally she had had more water ingress than I expected as I found leaks I never knew I had. In the forward cabin, a window leak I believe is now water coming in via a static vent due to huge quantity of green water crashing over it. The water entering the cabin via the hatch garage has been substantially reduced but not stopped, the new water system still has a slight weep as the pump starts about every 2 to 3 hours and the stern gland I found out today has an expected life of 5 years and it has been fitted for 8½ years and is probably leaking.

Only things directly related to the trip will be included. Food will not be included as I need to eat even when at home. Purchases like the bike and drone will be shown as final items after the direct expenses.

 

[Concerto]

This morning the windows inside the boat were heavy with condensation from a cold night that had dropped to about 5C. When I went outside to go for a shower, I could not believe how much dew was on the decks and sprayhood windows. As I walked along the pontoon there was a couple walking toward me with a German Shepherd. The husband had passed and the wife asked "Are you from Concerto?" It turns out they berth in Chatham and we first met in 2016 at 4am in Brighton Marina as I had arrived at 3.30 and went over to them to advise them their nav lights were on their motorboat. They were just leaving for Ocean Village, where I met them again as the boat show had enticed us there. Well I asked them how long they thought it took me to get from Chatham to Hamble. The answers were 3 days and 2 days. They were shocked when I said 112 days, so had to explain. This slightly delayed me eventually leaving for the 7 mile ride to the show, but I was there by 10.

Walking the bike towards the WOA stand, I stopped to have a chat with my friend at Kemp Sails. He was feeling tired as he has a 3 year old and 10 month old baby, so his sleep pattern has been disturbed regularly. Talking about regular exhibitors who are missing, he said he knows a director of one of the large chandlery chains and they made the decision not to attend as the cost and effort to basically set up a full shop for a relatively short period of time disrupts the business, especially as so much business is now done via the internet.

Then it was time to go walkabout. It started with a query on the Fusion radio stand, whilst there I spied some solar panels on ecobat stand across the aisle. When I checked the maximum space available, against the range available, I was then surprised at the price for a 50W flexible panel as it was a fraction of the price of the same manufacturer's panel from an online search. However a further comment was I could add extra panels in series for greater charging. So I decided to buy 3, but only fix one permanently and have the other two as removeable panels. With a charge controller and a long connection cable, I was ready to place an order. They would deliver the system to Mercury later in the week. Unfortunately when they tried to access their server, it did not respond. On Tuesday morning, I will place the order. So all my charging problems should be solved as I will have the parts to fit.

Then it was on to the Beta stand with a minor query, which they answered in seconds. Then I got a surprise gift. Someone had sold their boat and later found an engine anode at home, so he dropped it off on the stand. This was presented to me free of charge. Next it was the Navionics turn to see if they could show me how to extract the distance from my chart plotter for my trip. On Tuesday I will bring the Navionics card so they can show me how to do it. As I passed the Cruising Association stand one lady said she recognised me from last year and then Derek Lumb, the President joined us. He asked if I was the man who had just sailed sinhglehanded round Britain via the Shetlands, to which I said yes. He then shocked me as I had never met him before as he said I was called Roger. A member in Scotland had told him about my exploits. After chatting about boats, he mentioned he used to own a Westerly Typhoon - what a lucky man. The subject then changed to an event in February about an all day event in Limehouse about doing a Round Britain trip. They have speakers lined up with specialist knowledge for sections of the country, but would I be prepared to give an hour talk on doing the trip quickly and see some places rather taking a number of years. I gave a tentative yes as I need to check with SWMBO.

Now it was back to the WOA stand as I had arranged to meet a fellow Fulmar owner for lunch, none other than my friend Steve who I went to see in Pwllheli who is reaching the end of a 4 year restoration of a negelcted Fulmar. We only grabbed some pasties and sat on the grass bank outside the hall. A few new questions needed an answer which I was able to do. He is now looking forward to the end of February as that is his expected launch date. Then it was time for me to be on the WOA stand. Like yesterday a number of forum members came to say how much they have enjoyed the posts and photographs. About 4 pm I realised I had not met the wife and children from the Centaur in the marina. I pulled on my jacket as there was a cool breeze on the water. I asked if I could board, she said permission granted. Along came a pirate to chat to the children, so I just sat quietly in the cockpit as the banter went on. She then said please go below. After a brief look below, she asked my thoughts, so I just pulled my jacket back to show my embroidered shirt with the WOA emblem and the boat name. She knew who I was straight away. The children then wanted to go on the cruise round the bay which was just about to leave. So I chatted with Adrian, the owner and told him I was going to be on board on the mornings of Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday as he has to be working. Fellow WOA members will be there in the afternoon.

Then I headed back to the WOA stand where I chatted to a number of people including a man from Denmark who was thinking of buying a Westerly and anothe couple who are looking for an Oceanlord. The hall was now thinning out of visitors, but I remained there until 6pm when the show closed.

Back at the marina I was going down the ramp to the pontoons when a seal popped up. Standing still with a number of other people, we watched as the seal dived under the surface and after several minutes and a number of dives, the seal caught a large grey mullet. It was being held by the head, but it took about 3 minutes before the seal managed to finally kill it as the tail kept flapping. None of us had ever seen a seal kill a fish.

 

[Boathook]

Today was certainly busier than yesterday. Walking round the marquees and all the stands on terra ferma, I started to realise there were many regular businesses missing. Here are a few that I wanted to see.
Marina Developments Ltd
Force 4 chandlery
Marine Supermarket
TSC Chandlery
The large marine shoe stand
Marlec wind and solar power

One thing I wanted to check out was a new set of oil skins, but here is only one stand selling oil skins of a brand I have not heard of. So far I have not seen any stands with solar panels.

Thinking about the boats on the pontoons I saw yesterday, there seemed to be far more powerboats than yachts. There were certainly a lot more sailing dinghies and inflatables/ribs. The classic/traditional boat area seemed to be much smaller.

There are far more food stalls than ever before. There were a few areas where they seem to be grouped. The toilets are still Portacabin based but again there seemed to be more. There was certainly a fair number of sailmakers and engine suppliers. Yet there were 4 stands selling mini cube air cooling units.

The show is different from previous years, but I felt it has lost some of its importance.

Interesting comments about the show. I was wondering whether to go but the lack of a free ticket or cheap ticket put me off (I know about the rya buy one get one but only wanted one ticket). I am interested in updating my solar panels and oilskins so the fact that there was a lack of stands displaying these items means I haven't wasted a trip down. Seems like Internet searches for solar is required plus a visit to a large chanderly for oilskins.
With the Internet, selling at the show was going to get less, but I was hoping that the show would carry on as a 'shop window' to what is around, how it looks and feels and then you use the Internet to purchase your products.

 

[Concerto]

After a very lazy day yeserday, it was back to the show today. The route I am cycling is mainly on minor roads or through some parkland with quite a few short sharp hills. It is 7 miles each way and this morning I did it in just 40 minutes, which even after stopping for several traffic lights, the average speed was still 10½ mph.

Once at the show I headed to order the solar panels, but this evening I am still awaiting the invoice so I can pay. Then it was off to be on the Centaur in the marina. Here I met some friends who I saw at last year's at the show, plus several people interested in Westerly boats. One couple were wanting a Westerly at up to £100,000, another couple and a group of three friends were wanting to both buy a Centaur. Several current and old Centaurs owners came aboard for a chat.

Just before 1pm, I was relieved so I could grab a bite to eat. Then I wandered over to see the little blonde bombshell on the ASAP stand. She greeted me with a big smile and we just laughed about the wind up I tried at the weekend. She even said if I was a bit younger she would go out with me, but I sorry but I am already married. She wanted me to take a selfie with her to show there is definitely no problem, unlike some forum members who think everyone should be politially correct and have no sense of humour. My comment to them is get real and relax a bit.



This afternoon I saw Richard and Allison who I met several times whilst sailing up the East Coast and again in N Ireland. They circumnavigated via the Caledonian Canal and as they have not been sailing for long, were a lot more cautious than me. Late in the afternoon they returned wanting a little advice, so to help I took them to another stand to help them decide on the what they were planning to buy. Other forum members who I met today included Tranona, ChrisCorp, Birdseye, SaltyC and several who did not give their name.

In Mercury Yacht Haven on Monday late afternoon, a Halberg Rassey passed my transom and gave me a wave and shouted "Love your articles". With so many of you liking my reports, it feels like you are making me a celebrity. I am just an ordinary guy who has renovated my old boat and now done a series of day sails that have taken me on the long way round Britain. I may have a few extra skills, use a bit less caution than most people, but come and chat with me and you will see I put on no airs and graces. It makes no difference whether you have a superyacht or a 50 year old 20ft boat, you will all be treated the same.

Looking at the previous post I realised I had forgotten to include the photos of the dew and some of down on the show marina, unfortunately it is too lte to edit the post now, so they are included now.


After a cold night there was a very heavy dew on Sunday morning




Busy on the pontoons


A few of the expensive yachts


Even more expensive yachts

 

[steve yates]

You have never worked on a stand at any show. This sort of activity goes on all the time amongst stand holders. The young lady will have a laugh together on Tuesday. Today I found out a small detail about Mark and used it to wind him up. He guessed I was behind the friend I used to set him up. When I saw him in the late afternoon, we laughed about it and told him I was telling my blonde friend. She will laugh about it.

Sorry Mike, you do not have the same sense of humour, that is if you have any sense of humour.

But you don’t work on the ASAP stand. Your post suggested that you had met this young lady once, briefly, a year ago.
Then you mentioned that she would worry about this set up all day.
Sorry Roger, that just doesnt seem very funny. in the slightest, and I have a wide ranging sense of humour, and a fund of black, sick and highly unpc jokes. Time and place though!
Then you say she is gullible cos she is blonde! I hope thats just not getting the concept that what works with friends in the bar just doesnt cut it on a public forum with hundreds of strangers.
To give you some perspective, if you try to to include any of those comments in your “articles” for pbo, I guarantee they will cut them out. The magazine simply wouldn’t publish that stuff.
If I was her, Mark would be getting an earful.