RNLI Rescue charges

[webcraft]

Re: Acts of Stupidity

OK, I'm convinced.

Call me for the first sitting of the panel . . . who gets to wear the black cap?

- Nick

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[tcm]

Re: penalties, and other rnli thoughts

are penalties restricted to merely some fines? After all, the guys smashing up brand new boats will obviously have loads of loot, with nice insurance, so fining them won't work. And the RNLI is similarly loaded, with loads of old sailors who wriote a wil in 1967 giving 20grand to wifey and "the remainder" (= massive house on south coast) going to Rnli. They have very hotshot marketing peeps with pinstripe suits mailing old folk all the time, propelled by erm specially written software.

Anyway, to punish the wrongdoers and teachem something too, I suggest a long arduous sea passage in a nasty old boat with horrid nodding motion such as ooh that Brigand56 on his Fastnet trip. This will either teach them some sound lessons, or possibly put them off boats for life. QED?

As an alternative they could agree to rewrite their will with generous donation in favour of RNLI and be barred from any sort of training whatsoever, therby ensuring much more massive funds for RNLI when they cop it which wil no doubt be quite soon.

Finally, it must be a right bugger being saved by RNLI cos i mean, i bet you wouldnt have your car keys, for example. I spect they would let you call up the AA from the boat though, to solve the problem. Do the rnli give you a lift back to home port though? - after all , one might be miles away once plonked ashore, and aren't fully "rescued" by being kicked out on a beach fifty miles away, really.

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[Twister_Ken]

Thanks but no thanks.

I decline all positions of responsibility, on the grounds that power corrupts (cetainly works on battery terminals) and I'm just a naive and innocent young feller.

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[tcm]

Re: But But...!

On another thread you were exploding about a jeanneau who cut you up!

When they say "String 'em up!" - they don't actually use poxy little bits of string, you know. Personally, I think burning is much better cos far less to go wrong with trapdoors etc etc and rope BUT (handy tip) you have to use actual wire to tie them up before the burning otherwise the rope will melt early on in the buring process and they might run off.

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[Aeolus_IV]

Re: Thanks but no thanks.

As the skipper of your Twister you have absolute power - and we know what that does to people.

Jeff.

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[tony_brighton]

good post Claymore - 64 so far

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Thanks but no thanks.

The Twister kindly consents to allow me to keep her in the manner to which she has become accustomed, but to imply that I command her is to misundeerstand the man/boat relationship.

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[Peppermint]

Re: Cultural Change

I suspect that there is a danger in getting the RNLI involved in collecting charges.
Or adjudicating disputes that would arise from charging . A much loved institution would end up as popular as a tax collector.

At the moment it's win win. The RNLI have lots of money and shiney toys and very little interferance. They love going out rescuing people, when we'd consider it un-called for they consider it a jaunt. The rest of us get to mutter "there but for the grace of god" while sneering at the "twit" who called them. It also means that when you really need them you don't hesitate to call, you don't have a board of inquiry first.

I think there's a case for sanctioning the truely stupid, perhaps impounding their boat until they do a course or something. But the MCA or the Police not the RNLI should do it.

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[Aja]

Amazing

And mostly about the subject too!

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[Peppermint]

Re: Baywatch

The RNLI is getting teams of Lifeguards organized.

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[sailbadthesinner]

Re: Cultural Change

i think you are wrong
the day the rnli starts considering charges is the day it might as well become sea start.

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[Aeolus_IV]

Re: Thanks but no thanks.

I can see where your comming from - in the "going astern" thread you said that you choose to go astern as slowly and reasonably possible. But surley when a Twister is going astern only the boat knows where she is going, and how she's going to do it! I have to conceed that you many not always be master of your own boat /forums/images/icons/smile.gif.

Jeff.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Thanks but no thanks.

Precisely.

The Twister decides exactly how she is going to go astern, and just to keep our relationship fresh she rarely does it the same way twice running. That's why, as a passenger, I just try and look as if it were planned that way and pop a fender into the ricochet regions.

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[Mirelle]

Legally impossible on these facts

If the boat was not salved there is no salved fund and salvage cannot therefore be claimed.

It is legally impossible to charge for saving life - for a whole string of technical legal reasons, the simplest of which is that saving life at sea is a duty imposed on all British citizens who find themselves at sea by the Merchant Shipping Acts.

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[claymore]

Re: Legally impossible on these facts

Legally impossible just now - but then laws could be changed?

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Legally impossible on these facts

Laws could be changed - like fox hunting you mean?

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[claymore]

Re: Legally impossible on these facts

Aye - and hanging.

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[Solitaire]

Re: No, No, No and on reflection, NO

In a way, the RNLI do charge - via "Off Shore". £43 a year. If everybody who owned a boat paid this relatively small sum it would swell the coffers by those who are most likely to require assitance. In the same issue of "The Lifeboat" there is an article showing how spontaneous awareness of the RNLI had dropped since 1998 and that this is partly due to legacy income being high and they (RNLI) reduced reduced other fund raising activitity. How many of the forum are members? I have had personal experience of the proffesionalism and dedication of RNLI crew earlier this year and joined Off Shore as a direct result. The RNLI crews don't ask for payment but a few extra quid every year from those who most use the sea is surely not a lot to ask.

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[Robin]

Re: No, No, No and on reflection, NO

Yes but that is entirely voluntary, just like putting money in their collecting box. For the record I have been a Shoreline and then Offshore Member of the RNLI for nearly 30 years, most of my friends who sail are members too. So far I have been lucky enough not to need their assistance.

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[uforea]

If the Lifeboat crew etc are volunteers how come it costs £4000-£6000 to go to the Harbour entrance and back.??? The only costs that I can see are Diesel, Teabags and Brandy and I understand that they only have to buy teabags.

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