doug748
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Fortunately they had the good sense to leave the old system in place. You send them a letter when you leave and phone them when you get back. Ideal.
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At the Border Force/RYA club meeting this year, they said that was deprecated and would end soon.Fortunately they had the good sense to leave the old system in place. You send them a letter when you leave and phone them when you get back. Ideal.
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I am told French customs also treat Q flag as having something to declareWe were called by a BF RIB off Dungeness and told to take down the Q flag, and that there was no need to have flown it unless we had something to declare.
I printed some off before I went, so could fill them in on the way, photograph, then email them.The idea of the system being online is good but it does need a tidy up on some of the wording. I really struggle with the French one as neither my phone or tablet can edit word or pdf documents unless I subscribe to some package.
I thought that the spread sheet had been superceded by the online form at Tell Border Force and HMRC you are sailing to or from the UK in a pleasure craftDoes anyone agree with me that the new online form is c..p?
When I left for Ostend 3 weeks ago I had an excel copy of e1331 all filled in. It was easy to see every item I had entered across one page and I only had to alter the date and add my son as crew
Having done so I emailed it to the address given
I then rang the number, also given, where I got a message telling me to fill in another form. I though sod that for a game of chestnuts they have the details, some jobsworth can do it themselves. My phone went flat and the pykies pulled the gpo cables for the third time in 6 weeks from our village phones, so we had no land lines either
I sailed to ostend
Today I thought that as I want to go home I would give the new form a go. Problem is that each set of questions hides the last page so if I made a mistake- passport details etc I cannot visually scan & correct it. Then I had to guess some squares to get them confirmed. It only works if you get each answer correct each time. If you get it wrong and go back you are stuffed.
In the end I rang border force & the chap said he would like the new form filled in, but the e1331 still works as a backup
I got the old excel e1331, altered the travel dates, stopped departure & arrival destinations & made up some pointless times as before, visually scanned the page to see all parts filled in ok
The whole process took a few minutes
I then emailed it & turned my phone off.
I may buy a yellow q flag one day. No point flying it in the middle of the night anyway. I cannot see it.
Just take the Q flag down and go home.Can anyone provide a definitive answer to departing and arriving from/to the UK in a yacht. I completed the online form for departure of UK the and then one for arrival back in the UK when we went to Alderney last weekend. All UK Passport holders so no complexity. The advise from Border Patrol is that you must fly a Q flag when re-entering UK territorial waters and NOT LOWER IT UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN CONTACTED BY UK BORDER FORCE.
It's now Wednesday and we haven't been contacted. Do we have to fly a Q flag permanently now? What a mess.......
The new UK online system works very well indeed.Does anyone agree with me that the new online form is c..p?
When I left for Ostend 3 weeks ago I had an excel copy of e1331 all filled in. It was easy to see every item I had entered across one page and I only had to alter the date and add my son as crew
Having done so I emailed it to the address given
I then rang the number, also given, where I got a message telling me to fill in another form. I though sod that for a game of chestnuts they have the details, some jobsworth can do it themselves. My phone went flat and the pykies pulled the gpo cables for the third time in 6 weeks from our village phones, so we had no land lines either
I sailed to ostend
Today I thought that as I want to go home I would give the new form a go. Problem is that each set of questions hides the last page so if I made a mistake- passport details etc I cannot visually scan & correct it. Then I had to guess some squares to get them confirmed. It only works if you get each answer correct each time. If you get it wrong and go back you are stuffed.
In the end I rang border force & the chap said he would like the new form filled in, but the e1331 still works as a backup
I got the old excel e1331, altered the travel dates, stopped departure & arrival destinations & made up some pointless times as before, visually scanned the page to see all parts filled in ok
The whole process took a few minutes
I then emailed it & turned my phone off.
I may buy a yellow q flag one day. No point flying it in the middle of the night anyway. I cannot see it.
And getting told you need to do a verification check of your own passport to ensure you didn't forge it.The form itself is good, it's the implementation that doesn't work wrt being cleared in and when to take down the duster.