SailorFrank
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I am considering renaming the boat I am about to purchase - in the view of the forum is this very unlucky?
Renaming a Boat
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eastcoastbernie
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My boat's on her third name already. She doesn't seem to mind. I do sometimes wonder about how I will stand if I ever get asked to show my boat paperwork to anyone though, as each bit of paper has a different boat name on it. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
curve
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There is a special ceremony you have to perform and you will be okay.
jonic
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SailorFrank
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thanks thats brilliant!
Lakesailor
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Or alternatively just scrape off the old name and stick on the new one.
If you believe there is a malevolent spirit to be appeased when setting out to sea.
Well.........don't go.
If you believe there is a malevolent spirit to be appeased when setting out to sea.
Well.........don't go.
Carolwildbird
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Like Lakey, I'm not sure about the appeasing bit either- the main part of my recent boat renaming was a blessing instead adapted from this one, reputedly written by someone called Ginny Kienast for her boat "Dove"
THE BLESSING
OWNER: "We have come together this afternoon to perform a blessing on this boat. In ancient times, a vessel was blessed with all four elements to insure it remained in balance with the forces of the world. Today we will do the same."
MASTER: The first ancient element was AIR (light incense and pass it to the owner). Air is the element of thought and logic; of clear vision. By blessing this vessel with air, we ask that the skipper be always blessed with clear knowledge and the skill to overcome all obstacles.
OWNER: (As you carry the incense around the gunwales from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with air. May she grant me clear vision always."
MASTER: The second element is FIRE (light a candle or lamp and pass it to the owner). Fire is the element of change and magic; of transformation and of will. By blessing this boat with fire, we ask that the boat behave well in the water - like magic.
OWNER: (As you carry the lamp around the gunwales from stem to stern and return, say these words) "I bless this boat with fire. May she carry me magically through the seas."
MASTER: The third element is WATER (hold up a chalice filled with water and hand it to the owner). Water is the element of emotions and love; of relationships and friendships. By blessing this boat with water, we ask that the skipper always have many friends at hand.
OWNER: (As you sprinkle water on the vessel around the gunwales, from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with water. May I always be surrounded by good friends."
MASTER: The last element is EARTH (hold up a pentacle of salt). Earth is the element of basic needs and sustenance; of material things and health and financial matters. By blessing this boat with earth, we ask that the skipper always have health and happiness.
OWNER: (As you spread salt around the gunwales, from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with earth. May I stay healthy , wealthy, and happily together with this vessel."
MASTER: Now, repeat after me: "And as I will it, so might it me! Blessed be!"
OWNER: "And as I will it, so might it me! Blessed be!"
MASTER: The blessing is done. May she carry you always as free as the wind, as sprightly as fire, as lovingly as water, and as safely as the earth itself. Blessed be!
THE BLESSING
OWNER: "We have come together this afternoon to perform a blessing on this boat. In ancient times, a vessel was blessed with all four elements to insure it remained in balance with the forces of the world. Today we will do the same."
MASTER: The first ancient element was AIR (light incense and pass it to the owner). Air is the element of thought and logic; of clear vision. By blessing this vessel with air, we ask that the skipper be always blessed with clear knowledge and the skill to overcome all obstacles.
OWNER: (As you carry the incense around the gunwales from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with air. May she grant me clear vision always."
MASTER: The second element is FIRE (light a candle or lamp and pass it to the owner). Fire is the element of change and magic; of transformation and of will. By blessing this boat with fire, we ask that the boat behave well in the water - like magic.
OWNER: (As you carry the lamp around the gunwales from stem to stern and return, say these words) "I bless this boat with fire. May she carry me magically through the seas."
MASTER: The third element is WATER (hold up a chalice filled with water and hand it to the owner). Water is the element of emotions and love; of relationships and friendships. By blessing this boat with water, we ask that the skipper always have many friends at hand.
OWNER: (As you sprinkle water on the vessel around the gunwales, from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with water. May I always be surrounded by good friends."
MASTER: The last element is EARTH (hold up a pentacle of salt). Earth is the element of basic needs and sustenance; of material things and health and financial matters. By blessing this boat with earth, we ask that the skipper always have health and happiness.
OWNER: (As you spread salt around the gunwales, from stem to stern and return, repeat these words) "I bless this boat with earth. May I stay healthy , wealthy, and happily together with this vessel."
MASTER: Now, repeat after me: "And as I will it, so might it me! Blessed be!"
OWNER: "And as I will it, so might it me! Blessed be!"
MASTER: The blessing is done. May she carry you always as free as the wind, as sprightly as fire, as lovingly as water, and as safely as the earth itself. Blessed be!
jhr
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BigNick has just held a re-naming ceremony for his boat, so you could try asking him. So far as I can tell, it seemed to involve the services of a Vicar, the presence of several mates, and large quantities of champagne.
The Vicar is optional. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
The Vicar is optional. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
morgandlm
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"The vicar is optional"
...but surely an essential part of the superstition?
Morgan
...but surely an essential part of the superstition?
Morgan
jhr
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I guess so, although there's another superstition that you shouldn't allow a Vicar on a boat, if I recall correctly.
Sometimes, you just can't win. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
Sometimes, you just can't win. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
WindFinder
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I guess so, although there's another superstition that you shouldn't allow a Vicar on a boat, if I recall correctly.
Sometimes, you just can't win. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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There's a superstition that you shouldn't start a trip on Friday and every weekend sailor in the world does that!
I guess so, although there's another superstition that you shouldn't allow a Vicar on a boat, if I recall correctly.
Sometimes, you just can't win. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
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There's a superstition that you shouldn't start a trip on Friday and every weekend sailor in the world does that!
reginaldon
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What if the 'Sin bosun is the skipper?
jhr
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Just as long as he doesn't have a pet r*bb*t...................
cglanton
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I recently faced the same dilemma myself as I was planning to buy a boat with an awful name, as it was I came across a better boat with a name I liked so no issue.
However, I posed the same question to a few friends of a nautical persuasion and was reliably informed the reason for the bad luck is that in days gone by the boat name was carved into the wooden mast, repeatly changing the name led to bad luck as a result of the mast getting thinner each time old name was cut out and new name recarved then eventually mast would fall down (very bad luck!)
So provided you don't intend to carve your new name into your nice alloy spar you should be fine!
Chris
However, I posed the same question to a few friends of a nautical persuasion and was reliably informed the reason for the bad luck is that in days gone by the boat name was carved into the wooden mast, repeatly changing the name led to bad luck as a result of the mast getting thinner each time old name was cut out and new name recarved then eventually mast would fall down (very bad luck!)
So provided you don't intend to carve your new name into your nice alloy spar you should be fine!
Chris
MasterofHera
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Pirates and Privateers - in the past, when they captured ships and determined whether to use them for themselves or sell them on "changed the name". The name of a vessel was either carved or burned into the main frame of the ship. To remove this name necessitated removing a large part of the structural frame. The next time the vessel was subject to stormy conditions, the main structure failed. This was the reason that changing the name of a ship was believed to be unlucky.
SailorFrank
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thanks everyone this has really helped
