Ocean Hound
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Looking advice for kedge anchor for a 47' (disp 25t). What weight and type would panel recommend bearing in mind manual handling/possible haul off/use in the Baltic.
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Recommended kedge anchors
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jimbaerselman
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For easy haul off on a vessel your size you're looking at an aluminium alloy anchor . . .
snowleopard
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I would suggest a Fortress FX23 You could in fact get away with the FX16 which is light enough to throw overarm!
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Get a Bruce-type if you're going to the Baltic. That's what all the local yachts use and for good reason. I found out why when I tried to use a CQR for the first few weeks when mooring/anchoring bows-to the islands - CQRs are a beast, often impossible, to dig in, at least in Sweden/Finland. I haven't tried a Fortress or Danforth type there, but think there must be a good reason why local yachts don't use them - I suspect you'll have trouble getting them to dig in too.
Scandinavian yacht chandlers do attachments to let you fit Bruces neatly on your pushpit, though the attachment lumps of metal can be expensive!
For the UK, Fortress/Danforth seems to be the norm, presumably because they fold flat, don't puncture the inflatable, and work well in soft mud.
bearing in mind manual handling/possible haul off/use in the Baltic
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Get a Bruce-type if you're going to the Baltic. That's what all the local yachts use and for good reason. I found out why when I tried to use a CQR for the first few weeks when mooring/anchoring bows-to the islands - CQRs are a beast, often impossible, to dig in, at least in Sweden/Finland. I haven't tried a Fortress or Danforth type there, but think there must be a good reason why local yachts don't use them - I suspect you'll have trouble getting them to dig in too.
Scandinavian yacht chandlers do attachments to let you fit Bruces neatly on your pushpit, though the attachment lumps of metal can be expensive!
For the UK, Fortress/Danforth seems to be the norm, presumably because they fold flat, don't puncture the inflatable, and work well in soft mud.
vyv_cox
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Fully agree. The Fortress makes an excellent kedge, with 4-5 metres of chain plus anchorplait. Holds very well indeed in a sandy/muddy bottom, easy to handle and stow. On a smaller boat I would consider using an Anchoralina (sp?) attached to the pushpit instead of the anchorplait.
graham42
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agree with fortress too, tho..
if your looking for 40kg approx danforth generic ive one to a good home!
if your looking for 40kg approx danforth generic ive one to a good home!
hylass
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F O R T R E S S .... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
duncan
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fortress or aluminum spade. With about 10m 8mm chain to a good length of rope you could have a setup that will be light and compact enough to row out and, properly sized and deployed on a good scope, holding as required. Both will stow reasonable although the fortress has a large footprint against it and the spade the need to bolt together to maximise it's stowage capability.
hylass
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the spade the need to bolt together to maximise it's stowage capability.
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the spade the need to bolt together to maximise it's stowage capability.
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duncan
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I did say maximise the options !
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some people like flat, some find the fortress footprint to large for their stoage area, some need to get it through a small locker door etc etc
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some people like flat, some find the fortress footprint to large for their stoage area, some need to get it through a small locker door etc etc
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If you're going to be in the northern Baltic for any length of time, then I definitely would not get a small Fortress as a stern anchor.
The Swedish/Finnish way of anchoring is to use the stern anchor (I don't think kedge is really the right word) as the main anchor - many boats have the windlass at the stern rather than the bow, and it is not uncommon even in the middle of a bay to see a yacht anchored and swinging by the stern. Some yachts don't seem to bother having bow anchors at all.
The common way of anchoring is to drop the stern anchor just off an island, and motor the bows in to a suitable rock, hop off onto it and secure bow lines. If you can't do this with a decent stern anchor then you are missing one of the biggest pleasures of the Baltic.
So you're looking for a stern anchor more beefy than a small kedge designed for use as a kedge in a dinghy. As already mentioned, a Bruce is probably the way to go. You'll probably be using it all the time. I ditched my Fortress soon after arriving in the Baltic. If you decide on a Fortress anyay, then make it a decent size.
If you're just going to be on a short Baltic visit though, or aren't planning to go into the archipelagos, then by all means go for a small kedge/Fortress.
The Swedish/Finnish way of anchoring is to use the stern anchor (I don't think kedge is really the right word) as the main anchor - many boats have the windlass at the stern rather than the bow, and it is not uncommon even in the middle of a bay to see a yacht anchored and swinging by the stern. Some yachts don't seem to bother having bow anchors at all.
The common way of anchoring is to drop the stern anchor just off an island, and motor the bows in to a suitable rock, hop off onto it and secure bow lines. If you can't do this with a decent stern anchor then you are missing one of the biggest pleasures of the Baltic.
So you're looking for a stern anchor more beefy than a small kedge designed for use as a kedge in a dinghy. As already mentioned, a Bruce is probably the way to go. You'll probably be using it all the time. I ditched my Fortress soon after arriving in the Baltic. If you decide on a Fortress anyay, then make it a decent size.
If you're just going to be on a short Baltic visit though, or aren't planning to go into the archipelagos, then by all means go for a small kedge/Fortress.
bryeomans
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We used an FX 16 on our 7t Nicholson to kedge in tidal conditions( racing, no wind, current 3knots plus on a rocky bottom) - it fouled on something and bent the arms (actually a 20cm diameter alloy extrusion). Not impressed - it now lives in my garage. Steel(!) yourself and get a proper Danforth (or Fisherman) - the only justification for alloy anchors is probably as a device to minimise weight on a racing yacht required to carry two anchors!
Jonny_H
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The Swedish/Finnish way of anchoring is to use the stern anchor (I don't think kedge is really the right word) as the main anchor .... a Bruce is probably the way to go.
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Seems a boat we saw in Holyhead marina has had the same thoughts:
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Mind you - we also saw a boat set-up like this in Falmouth, moored bows to in a very narrow marina /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I took particular care to give him a wide berth on the way out (it was dark) - quite a nasty thing to have hanging off the back of the boat in a tight marina!
Jonny
The Swedish/Finnish way of anchoring is to use the stern anchor (I don't think kedge is really the right word) as the main anchor .... a Bruce is probably the way to go.
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Seems a boat we saw in Holyhead marina has had the same thoughts:
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Mind you - we also saw a boat set-up like this in Falmouth, moored bows to in a very narrow marina /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I took particular care to give him a wide berth on the way out (it was dark) - quite a nasty thing to have hanging off the back of the boat in a tight marina!
Jonny
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Yup, that's quite a typical Baltic set-up. Sadly mine's less sophisticated - involves hauling the lot (incl. 30m of chain) manually over the guardrail. Not ideal, but quite a good work-out. Some form of roller would be an enormous bonus!
p.s. My anchor is attached to the pushpit, like Hylas's, if anyone's going to scratch their gelcoat on it, they'd have to destroy the windvane first! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I see the boat in your picture also has an attachment for a Windpilot windvane.
p.s. My anchor is attached to the pushpit, like Hylas's, if anyone's going to scratch their gelcoat on it, they'd have to destroy the windvane first! /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif I see the boat in your picture also has an attachment for a Windpilot windvane.
Jonny_H
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Yeah - agree! Looks like a great set-up but I imagine it was quite expensive to set-up and get the chain all feeding correctly etc.
They do stick out quite a lot (although this one does have a windvane) - the one in Falmouth was a 42 footer moored in a line of 30 - 35 footers (so already sticking out a long way), and just the anchor on the back of the transom (nothing else) - it looked lethal to me with my new (to me!) topsides!
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Jonny
They do stick out quite a lot (although this one does have a windvane) - the one in Falmouth was a 42 footer moored in a line of 30 - 35 footers (so already sticking out a long way), and just the anchor on the back of the transom (nothing else) - it looked lethal to me with my new (to me!) topsides!
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Jonny