vic008
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Have Raymarine ST2000, and a Raymarine 4000. Can they both be operated off the same 12v power socket in the cockpit? I don't think they can.
Raymarines off same socket
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cpedw
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Are they wheel or tiller pilots or one of each? How can you use both at once? If you can use both at once, why would they not be able to share a power socket?
vic008
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Tiller. Not sure of the meaning, have one socket, how do I put both plugs in? And why would I want both running at the same time? Ones a backup.
Tranona
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That really is overkill!. No the plugs are different because the 2000 is a self contained unit and just needs power (although you can wire to other instruments). The 4000 uses Seatalk and has a totally different plug and socket to connect the ram.
Cannot imagine why you would want to use them together, but if you mean have the ability to swap then the same mounts can be used for the ram and no reason why you should not have the 2 plugs located close together.
Fantasie 19
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I think the question may be is it possible to use the same type of power plug/socket for both devices.. which I think Tranona answered in his first para..
Alex_Blackwood
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Would that not be obvious to the OP??
Pye_End
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Presumably the 2000 needs a continuous supply, but the 4000 is controlled at the controlled head, resulting in a supply that is only live when the ram is being asked to move? In which case it is difficult to see how you could use the same socket.
If the question is whether the supply to the 4000 control head and the 2000 can be common, then presumably yes.
If the question is whether the supply to the 4000 control head and the 2000 can be common, then presumably yes.
Tranona
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Yes one would have thought so
Alex_Blackwood
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If both plugs are the same, with a compatible socket, it maybe possible that one was used as an emergency back up and only had the requisite cables/pins used. As usual more info from OP. At a guess I would say that both units required a power supply. As Pye_End says one will have additional feeds from the control box. I can't really comment as I don't know the units and the difference(s) between them, there obviously are differences.
Tranona
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Pretty sure they are not the same according to the installation manuals for the 2 different types. The 4000 uses a dedicated Seatalk plug and socket which is square. The 2000 uses a round plug and socket primarily for power but also can be wired back to either Seatalk or NMEA instruments. No reason why he can't have both types installed near each other so that either can be used.
Alex_Blackwood
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Sorry, I should have made clear that someone could have fitted the different plug to the back up unit. I didn't mean same from maker.
Pye_End
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My 4000+ has just 2 wires going to the ram from the control display, so presumably just an intermittent + and - . Don't know if the 4000 is different, but can't see why it would be.
Hard to see how this being able to feed a 2000 which has the gubbins inside the TP instead.
If the OP wants just one socket on deck, perhaps choose a plug and socket with more wiring options - eg pins 1 and 2 from 4000 control, pins 3 and 4 with continuous supply for the 2000, and maybe pins for ST if that is desired - and then wire the 2 plugs accordingly.
It is also worth noting that the dimensions of the two units may well be different - ie it could be that one TP will need to mounted in a different place from the other, although extensions to the arms could sort it out depending on the geometry of the boat.
As I said I am not familiar with either unit so basically just flying kites
