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hi
i thought id start my first scuttlebutt debate off with a bit of controversy, hands up and be honest, how many people who sail and have a boat fitted with a v.h.f. have a radio licence, i do not, and quite frankly never intend to have, as i do not see the point, it costs loads of money and just because you have it does not mean you use it any better (just listen to channel 16 on a sunny sunday), as long as you use it how it is intended i see no problem, would you all agree.




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I'm sure Mike Martin will be very interested to read that you have no licence /forums/images/icons/laugh.gif

Personally, yes I have one

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And why am I legally allowed to use all kinds of Comms. equipment on a 747 crossing the Atlantic but I am not allowed to call up the marina to lock out?

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I've tried my handheld VHF loads of times on transatlantic flights, but never contacted anyone. Can't be many boats out there. /forums/images/icons/frown.gif

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Welcome to the forum. a bit of controversy is always a way to start an ill-informed discussion - (look at politicians as an example!)

Depends whether you are talking about the radio license for the boat (applied for my renewal over the net yesterday) or the Operators License (got one of them as well)
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I have both a boat and operator's license

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Value for money or not, like the system or not, it's law and most of us respect it and have operators licences and ships radio licences. Take a walk around any marina and look in the port side glazing, I don't think you will find many without that little disk (mine's out of date though, cause I forgot to take the new one with me at the weekend!). Just like the way we will all moan, feel thoroughly p****d off but still pay our light dues.

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sorry but I for one have both Radio & operators, & most of the yachts in the marina had Licence.

I don't quite understand where your coming from? Are you saying that you don't agree with the licence fee. I am not sure but I assume that some of the dosh collected goes to maintaining the Coastguard equipment, & I for one am gratefull that they are there!

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I have both, knowing my luck if I didn't I would get caught.

I don't like paying for road tax either, but as it is the law I do.

I don't like paying my television license but as it is the law I do

I don't like paying council tax, but .......

Why do you think your objection to the boat radio license is any more justified than any of the other squillions of bills we must pay.

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There is no requirement to have an operator's licence as long as you never use the radio to communcate except in a serious emergency.

There is a requirement for the radio itself to be licenced. Penalties for not having one go as far as ccnfiscation of the vessel.

If you have a run in with the French police, and don't have the right licences, you can expect to return home many Euro poorer.

All that matters to me and so I'm legit on this stuff. But if you're happy to play Russian roulette, go ahead, just don't expect any sympathy.

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Re:poter

Despite holding valid licences, I have had numerous vitriolic discussions with the Radio Licencing Officers, including throwing them off more than one boat.

When challenged as to why they exist ,the answer is always " to issue radio licences" and as to where does the money go " to fund the issue of licences". In other words, it is a self serving and totallly non-productive quango. No, the Coastguard does not get a bean out of it.

When, did any of us hear of the Licencing Authority regulating, lets say, a fisherman, transmitting ineterminable foul language at in excess of 25 watts?
Or. indeed any other abuse of the system, other than not having their expensive licence. Rip of Britain again.



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If you have a DSC radio then a ships licence is the only way that you can get hold of an MMSI to program into it . For that reason alone I couldn't get out of having a ships licence.

There is some useful information in the VHF operators course (would you be able to speak to your mate in another boat on channel 23, if not why not?). However I would agree working the radio aint exactly rocket science, just that its the law that you need to have one... and as someone said if you go abroad it can save a lot of hassle and fines to have the bit of paper, not that I have been asked for it in France - yet...!

I do find it surprising the responses that threads about VHF licencing generate my own opinion is that there is a lot more exciting stuff to do with sailing than the paperwork... but I think you are likely to start a debate and a bit of controversy.

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Quite agree, I am in the third week of my GMDSS course.SHMBO, (radio opp) took her's last year .I should have gone first cos now i have to match her 100% !! Blast!
And you are correct ,no licence no MMSI.cant use the set without it.
Also i have been asked for the radio papers in Holland.Big fine and loss of the set if you cannot produce the correct docs.

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While I agree with your sentiments, the law's the law. Also, it's hardly a lot of money compared to everything else we have to pay out in the name of leisure...

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Ahh but it soon will be alot of money as now all the communciations agencys have been rolled into one almighty beaurocratic nightmare. Call me cynical but I can't see this latest development making it cheaper can you?

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No not really. I'd like things to be cheap or free, but people who short cut on the radio licence are likely the types who short cut on planning, maintenance and everything else. Poor show really.



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