Radar/AIS installation

[pandos]

I bought a second hand radar this year for £350ish, including cable, scanner and LCD display, I could have had a pole for the same price also, but I declined. Last year I bought and sold a system for €250... but I had my own repaired instead of swapping it over, (that was a mistake)

An AIS transceiver can be had for €500 including a chart plotter from Aves marine... so he could do the same for less than £1000.

Nothing wrong with secondhand parts on a SH boat... ( if he wanted networked bells and whistles on state of the art equipment etc then maybe Paul Rainbows figures are more realistic)

 

[doug748]

I don't need any assistance, thanks. I'm asking you for a breakdown of the £3k that you claim the OPs system will cost.

Can you provide a breakdown, or is £3k just a random figure that you plucked from the air ?

The OP asked for a rough budget and I think 3k is about right, It's not my figure. It was mentioned in post 5 and I agreed with it.

Why did you not tell Yellow Ballad he was talking nonsense?

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[cherod]

I bought a second hand radar this year for £350ish, including cable, scanner and LCD display, I could have had a pole for the same price also, but I declined. Last year I bought and sold a system for €250... but I had my own repaired instead of swapping it over, (that was a mistake)

An AIS transceiver can be had for €500 including a chart plotter from Aves marine... so he could do the same for less than £1000.

Nothing wrong with secondhand parts on a SH boat... ( if he wanted networked bells and whistles on state of the art equipment etc then maybe Paul Rainbows figures are more realistic)

from what i can see most radome s s/h come in around 300 and an mfd ( eg. ray 120 ) around 6 -800 , what system are you looking at complete for 350 ?

 

[PaulRainbow]

3k+

Without knowing what the OP wants, has or even what the boat is, this is nonsense.

 

[dulls]

This is just nonsense. You don't know anything about his setup, what he wants, or where he will fit it.

What if he want radar up the mast, AIS transceiver and a 9" MFD to display it on, how will he get that for 3K ?

What if he already has a modern MFD, the radar bracket is on the mast and he only wants receive AIS, how does that come to 3K ?

Plus, any number of installation in-between, plus he said the cost should include installation.

He covered him self when he said this
"It is possible to spend almost endless amounts more."

 

[PaulRainbow]

The OP asked for a rough budget and I think 3k is about right, It's not my figure. It was mentioned in post 5 and I agreed with it.

Why did you not tell Yellow Ballad he was talking nonsense?

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Still no breakdown of that £3K Doug ?

I've pointed out that Yellow Ballads £3k + is also nonsense

 

[cherod]

Without knowing what the OP wants, has or even what the boat is, this is nonsense.

not sure why you would say that , as irrispective of what his boat is 3k could easily get what the OP says he needed

 

[davidej]

Do you lot think you are posting on the Lounge?

Tone it down a bit please.

 

[PaulRainbow]

not sure why you would say that , as irrispective of what his boat is 3k could easily get what the OP says he needed

What does he need ?

 

[cherod]

What does he nee
checking on OP it is radar and ais, either combined or in single unit ,, then instillation which is unknown cost .. easy ?

 

[PaulRainbow]

checking on OP it is radar and ais, either combined or in single unit ,, then instillation which is unknown cost .. easy ?

From post #1

I am considering purchasing a boat that doesn't have radar.I would appreciate any thoughts as to rough budget costs for purchase of radar/AIS plus installation whether it be on the mast or on a post at the pushpit.

List what he needs please.

 

[cherod]

From post #1

List what he needs please.

right , i am assuming you dont have a similarly fitted boat
radome, cable , bracket / pole
mfd , live wire feed,,
gps unit , cable
ais unit and cable , live feed,
( i hope i have not missed anything out )

 

[pvb]

right , i am assuming you dont have a similarly fitted boat
radome, cable , bracket / pole
mfd , live wire feed,,
gps unit , cable
ais unit and cable , live feed,
( i hope i have not missed anything out )

Maybe it already has an MFD...

 

[PaulRainbow]

right , i am assuming you dont have a similarly fitted boat

I've no idea, neither do you, the OP has not revealed what equipment the boat has.

radome, cable , bracket / pole

Maybe there is already a bracket on the mast.

mfd , live wire feed,,
gps unit , cable

Perhaps the boat already has an MFD. If not, most new ones come with built in GPS.

ais unit and cable , live feed,
( i hope i have not missed anything out )

My point is, the OP has not told us what the boat is, what equipment it already has or exactly what he needs, not even a clue. Yet some people are quoting figures to fit random equipment which may, or may not, be needed.

 

[PaulRainbow]

My own boat does not have radar ( i'll make it a little simpler, let's not mention AIS). What will i need and roughly what will it cost to fit radar on my boat ?

 

[vyv_cox]

Here is my experience. When we cruised in The Netherlands, seven years, out most weekends of the year up and down the coast, we frequently encountered fog. I bought radar and used it frequently, would not have liked to be without it. In general the direction in which shipping was travelling was predictable, so AIS (if it had existed then) was not strictly necessary.

In the Mediterranean I switch the radar on about once per year to check that it still works. Visibility is so rarely poor that we just don't need it. Conversely, ships are buzzing about in all directions between islands, totally unpredictable. We have twice come close to being run down. So now I have an AIS transponder that is on all the time we are sailing. Very comforting, not just in the hope that ships will know we are there but to see far more readily than with the radar where they are heading and by how much they will miss us.

 

[cherod]

I've no idea, neither do you, the OP has not revealed what equipment the boat has.



Maybe there is already a bracket on the mast.



Perhaps the boat already has an MFD. If not, most new ones come with built in GPS.



My point is, the OP has not told us what the boat is, what equipment it already has or exactly what he needs, not even a clue. Yet some people are quoting figures to fit random equipment which may, or may not, be needed.

i think that we can safely assume that he does not have a radar or an ais ,, ( all mfd s do not all come with built in gps,, take heed if about to purchase ) quibling about mounts etc , a hundred or so pounds here or there is not important ,,,,, if the guy is cash strapped ( on a budget as arent many of us ) then he can go used.

 

[LadyInBed]

Going by the frequency that I use my RADAR these days it isn't as important as it used to be.
An AIS Transceiver doesn't replace RADAR but it does give you 'sight' of what ships are about and let's vessels with AIS Receivers to see you, so on a new to me boat I would put my money in AIS Transceiver, Chart Plotter and, if the boat doesn't have one, a decent Autopilot.

 

[cherod]

Going by the frequency that I use my RADAR these days it isn't as important as it used to be.
An AIS Transceiver doesn't replace RADAR but it does give you 'sight' of what ships are about and let's vessels with AIS Receivers to see you, so on a new to me boat I would put my money in AIS Transceiver and, if the boat doesn't have on, a decent Autopilot.

and just hope that all other boats have ais and it is turned on ,, ? that is a " bit risky "

 

[DownWest]

and just hope that all other boats have ais and it is turned on ,, ? that is a " bit risky "

Just a thought, but the 'other boats' that matter are supposed to have AIS & turned on by law? Close friend was run down in the Atlantic by a Big Ship. He was OK, but had to abandon. At the time, he didn't realize that passive AIS was within his limited electrics (solar). If he had, he would have fitted it.
No garantees.. Another friend had a big ship running up their chuff mid Atlantic, with no AIS warning. Got them on the VHF and dodged. Quite certain they had not been seen as the ship was quite close. Clearly the Big Ship had it's AIS off.