Previously asked about E-Bikes / Scooters

Refueler said:
E-scooters / bikes have to be registered here in Latvia and for this - max speed weight etc is stipulated. If they exceed - then they are registered as a vehicle......
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Here they brought in a new rule along the lines of certification for all new, existing are exempt and have until 2027, then they will not meet the certification requirements similar to yours...however e-scooter like mine with a seat is not exempt that is why the ossifer advised I remove it.
 
In the US, pretty much anything electric that goes less than 32 kph is exempt. Many will go up to 50 kph and technically require registration, a motorcycle license, and a helmet, but it's 100% winked at. So far the studies show safety to be equivalent to bicycles, so I don't see that changing.
 
billskip said:
Here they brought in a new rule along the lines of certification for all new, existing are exempt and have until 2027, then they will not meet the certification requirements similar to yours...however e-scooter like mine with a seat is not exempt that is why the ossifer advised I remove it.
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I looked into this seat thing here :

Electric scooter:

  • the total power of electric motors does not exceed 1000 W;
  • the maximum designed speed does not exceed 25 km/h;
  • no pedals;
  • intended for one person;
  • equipped with a steering wheel or armrest mechanically connected to the footrest;
  • if a seat is installed, it is lower than 54 cm.
 
Got my e-scooter ... registered ... number attached .....

Frightened life out of me when I gave it Mode 3 speed !! Mode 1 is a bit slow and any bump can make you unstable a bit ... mode 2 - medium speed is good enough for me !! Mode 3 even though max 25kph - feels a lot more - in fact I reckon it is actually more ..
 
Refueler said:
Mode 3 even though max 25kph - feels a lot more - in fact I reckon it is actually more ..
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You can always check you speed with gps on your phone.
Mode 3 with topped up battery gives me 47kph, can be a bit scary because pedestrians don't have any consideration and just change direction without looking.
 
If you are in the Melbourne (AUS) area you might be able to pick up a bargain. The city administration has banned all electric scooters after a two year trial as they were deemed dangerous to pedestrians and considered to be left as litter by users 🙂
 
Aja said:
If you are in the Melbourne (AUS) area you might be able to pick up a bargain. The city administration has banned all electric scooters after a two year trial as they were deemed dangerous to pedestrians and considered to be left as litter by users 🙂
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I don't think you can put them on an airplane due to the batteries, so you would need to ship it back by sea.
 
In Scotland they are banned from train and bus stations as well as the trains and buses.

I once spent a pleasant 15 minutes listening to the discourse between a scooter owner who had allowed the battery to become flat and the bus driver who wasn't letting said scooter on. Bus driver won. It would have been a long manual scooter ride from Glasgow to Greenock that wet winter's day.
 
Aja said:
In Scotland they are banned from train and bus stations as well as the trains and buses.

I once spent a pleasant 15 minutes listening to the discourse between a scooter owner who had allowed the battery to become flat and the bus driver who wasn't letting said scooter on. Bus driver won. It would have been a long manual scooter ride from Glasgow to Greenock that wet winter's day.
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I, for one, wouldn't argue with a Glaswegian bus driver!
 
Latvian registration states max 25kph ..... not that they check the real speed it does.

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On May 11, the government approved amendments to the Road Traffic Regulations (CSN) introducing rules for electric scooters, according to a release by Transport Ministry.​

The new CSN framework provides that electric scooters are allowed to go on sidewalks, bicycle trails and lanes, public transport lanes if it is also allowed for bicycles on that section, and on the street.
At the same time, the regulatory framework determines that scooters give way to pedestrians if going on the sidewalk and they must move at a speed that does not exceed walking speed. Electric scooters can only travel on the street where the speed limit does not exceed 50 kilometers per hour.
The scooter must be in good technical condition, fitted with brakes, shall be illuminated on the front by a white light lamp and a red lamp on the rear. The driver must be clad in a light reflecting vest whenever possible.
It is prohibited to carry a passenger, let go of the steer, hold on to another vehicle and carry cargo that might pose danger to others.
The speed of the scooter cannot exceed 25 km/h and the person using it must be at least 14 years old. If an underage person is using a scooter they must hold a bicycle driving licence."

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The daft thing is - I can buy an E Scooter that states it is capable of 90KPH in Latvia ....
 
billskip said:
Maybe mainland Spain but very recently I've seen them on bus here in Tenerife...
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I have also seen them on the bus, but for me I would spend half the time pushing it up hill. I could buy one with a lot more power but it would be cheaper to buy a secondhand scooter (kids would not be happy). Truth is as a keen motorcyclist I would not drive one here, traffic is so unpredictable a lot of people never use their indicators and most never use the inner lane of the roundabout. Parking is a nightmare and traffic is very heavy especially in the afternoon and each year it gets worse with more young drivers thinking they are invincible. Every morning I walk past this Old Kawasaki z1000 for sale at a local shop, I then pull out my invisible gun and shoot myself.
 
Refueler said:
The daft thing is - I can buy an E Scooter that states it is capable of 90KPH in Latvia ....
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Much the same in the UK - you can legally buy lots of things you can't legally use! It usually takes the form that you need a license to operate whatever it is, but licenses won't be issued. CB radio was like that, as is lots of radio kit. Of course, you'll be well aware that the reason CB radios couldn't be licensed in the UK was because at that time it was the band allocated for radio control aircraft!
 
Metalicmike said:
I have also seen them on the bus, but for me I would spend half the time pushing it up hill. I could buy one with a lot more power but it would be cheaper to buy a secondhand scooter (kids would not be happy). Truth is as a keen motorcyclist I would not drive one here, traffic is so unpredictable a lot of people never use their indicators and most never use the inner lane of the roundabout. Parking is a nightmare and traffic is very heavy especially in the afternoon and each year it gets worse with more young drivers thinking they are invincible. Every morning I walk past this Old Kawasaki z1000 for sale at a local shop, I then pull out my invisible gun and shoot myself.
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I was in Santa Cruz Tuesday and a guy put one on the bus, I travel every where I can by bus as it's free, I only use the car for supermarket, as you say parking is a nightmare. I personally wouldn't recommend an escooter, I would go for an ebike, much more safely to use imho.
I'm not a motorbike lover and it makes me shudder when I see them doing 120+ with just a skidlid and barely any clothes on..
Yep the roundabout driving is certainly a challenge at times.
 
Don't start me on roundabouts ............... some daft sod here decided to try copy the Germans and Yanks with their 'funnelled' entry / exit of roundabouts. By time idea hit Latvia - a lot of brain cells had gone missing ..... now we have stupid situation of wanting to go to the main supermarket in town - you can imagine how popular ... means crossing TWO lanes as you exit roundabout to get to the left turn junction.

T junction on way from my house to centre ..... the straight road part must stop in one direction. The joining road from bridge has priority ... but so does another lane of the straight part ... the white lines on the road are like a herd of chimps with paint on their feet have been running around !!
 
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