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david_e
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Don't doubt her ability, great respect for her - but the whingeing!! At this point the whole thing is about PR and money - and for a thousand different reasons they chose the wrong shots, very negative.
Don't doubt her ability, great respect for her - but the whingeing!! At this point the whole thing is about PR and money - and for a thousand different reasons they chose the wrong shots, very negative.
webcraft
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Thought it was a great programme and that Ellen was pretty awe-inspiring - but then I always did, ever since the Vendee Globe.
The motion of the boat is so quick that a trip up the mast must have been pretty hellish - I thought she got off lightly with those bruises.
Interesting bit about using her olive oil supplies - intended as high-calorie food - to run the generator.
Some good observations on nature and global warming as well. Altogether a well-balanced and enjoyable hour's viewing.
[And didn't B&Q get their money's worth?]
- Nick
Thought it was a great programme and that Ellen was pretty awe-inspiring - but then I always did, ever since the Vendee Globe.
The motion of the boat is so quick that a trip up the mast must have been pretty hellish - I thought she got off lightly with those bruises.
Interesting bit about using her olive oil supplies - intended as high-calorie food - to run the generator.
Some good observations on nature and global warming as well. Altogether a well-balanced and enjoyable hour's viewing.
[And didn't B&Q get their money's worth?]
- Nick
Vara
Active member
Re:Totally agree!
I think it just pointed up the fact,mentioned many times on the Forum that her PR team did her no favours by pointing up the misery and distress and not highlighting her obvious seamanship and tenacity.
??Seamanship??sorry the PC mangling of this is so inelegant.
I think it just pointed up the fact,mentioned many times on the Forum that her PR team did her no favours by pointing up the misery and distress and not highlighting her obvious seamanship and tenacity.
??Seamanship??sorry the PC mangling of this is so inelegant.
webcraft
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Re: Whinging
That's the message you got.
You have obviously been brought up on TV heroes rather than real people, or have only read the 'hindsight-through-rose-tinted-spectacles' accounts of those who wrote about it months after their return rather than filming it as it happens.
Chichester whinged about the boat incessantly in his book - he just wasn't on telly. At least Ellen never took her negative feelings out on the boat - she always blamed her own inadequacies or raged at the weather - I don't call that whinging.
I think most people will disagree with you, and I am sure the sponsors are delighted.
- Nick
That's the message you got.
You have obviously been brought up on TV heroes rather than real people, or have only read the 'hindsight-through-rose-tinted-spectacles' accounts of those who wrote about it months after their return rather than filming it as it happens.
Chichester whinged about the boat incessantly in his book - he just wasn't on telly. At least Ellen never took her negative feelings out on the boat - she always blamed her own inadequacies or raged at the weather - I don't call that whinging.
I think most people will disagree with you, and I am sure the sponsors are delighted.
- Nick
DaveNTL
Well-known member
Re: Whinging
shouldnt it be windge?
shouldnt it be windge?
Spyro
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
I disagree I think it was a fair mix and showed Ellen In a good light. Of course there was going to be whinging, it's what she does. She whinges, most of us would shout and swear. If it helps her get through it then good on her. I think it was well edited as they could have shown her whinging every 5 minutes but it was only for a small amount of time during her struggle and frustration trying to get through a front in the South Atlantic.
As for the remote control escape pod it sounds like a great idea but she must have had great faith in it working. I suppose a bit like an ejector seat on a fighter jet, you only get to test it once. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
I disagree I think it was a fair mix and showed Ellen In a good light. Of course there was going to be whinging, it's what she does. She whinges, most of us would shout and swear. If it helps her get through it then good on her. I think it was well edited as they could have shown her whinging every 5 minutes but it was only for a small amount of time during her struggle and frustration trying to get through a front in the South Atlantic.
As for the remote control escape pod it sounds like a great idea but she must have had great faith in it working. I suppose a bit like an ejector seat on a fighter jet, you only get to test it once. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif
graham
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Her singleminded determination to succeed impressed me .
During storms instead of tucking down she sets max possible sail then stays awake for 3 days incase she needs to get on deck PDQ.
Those that say she is just out for self serving publicity have perhaps never pushed themselves to the extreme and dont appreciate the mental strength she posesses .
She deserves whatever advantage she can get now from her achievement.
Her singleminded determination to succeed impressed me .
During storms instead of tucking down she sets max possible sail then stays awake for 3 days incase she needs to get on deck PDQ.
Those that say she is just out for self serving publicity have perhaps never pushed themselves to the extreme and dont appreciate the mental strength she posesses .
She deserves whatever advantage she can get now from her achievement.
BrendanS
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Concur absolutely. She showed great determination and resolve under immense pressure and stress. What really showed, was her determination throughout to beat the record, with the boat coming before sleep or food. Not many can perform at that level for that extended period of time with so little sleep without getting a little emotional about things - that's what most of her detractors here don't seem to really understand
Concur absolutely. She showed great determination and resolve under immense pressure and stress. What really showed, was her determination throughout to beat the record, with the boat coming before sleep or food. Not many can perform at that level for that extended period of time with so little sleep without getting a little emotional about things - that's what most of her detractors here don't seem to really understand
fireball
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Did you notice - the first half was very positive, then as the time progressed it became more and more weepy - as she became more and more drained ...
I wonder if she did it again she would try harder to sleep more?
Did you notice - the first half was very positive, then as the time progressed it became more and more weepy - as she became more and more drained ...
I wonder if she did it again she would try harder to sleep more?
tome
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
With you all the way Brian, the girl done good. Great to see footage of her low points followed by her reflections. The relentless clock countdown was telling - just like professional fees or overheads, always seem to run run smoothly.
Fascinated by the release capsule, loved the approach to Ushant and so to the finish.
Best coverage I've seen so far. Very mature 28 year old and fully deserves her moment.
With you all the way Brian, the girl done good. Great to see footage of her low points followed by her reflections. The relentless clock countdown was telling - just like professional fees or overheads, always seem to run run smoothly.
Fascinated by the release capsule, loved the approach to Ushant and so to the finish.
Best coverage I've seen so far. Very mature 28 year old and fully deserves her moment.
webcraft
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Re: Spelling
Trust me - I'm an English teecher . . .
- Nick
Trust me - I'm an English teecher . . .
- Nick
Phoenix of Hamble
Active member
Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Agree completely with Brendan and Tome.... top stuff.... mental strength to be only admired......
I did sail once with a reverse version of the 'pod'....... after the rub-a-dub fell off the deck in the middle of Plymouth Sound.... I watched agog as a crew member leapt off the boat after it...... similar concept I guess....
Agree completely with Brendan and Tome.... top stuff.... mental strength to be only admired......
I did sail once with a reverse version of the 'pod'....... after the rub-a-dub fell off the deck in the middle of Plymouth Sound.... I watched agog as a crew member leapt off the boat after it...... similar concept I guess....
Vara
Active member
Re: Whinging
whinge
verb {I} whingeing or whinging UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
to complain, especially about something which does not seem important:
- Oh stop whinging, for heaven's sake!
- She's always whingeing (on) about something.
whinge
noun {C usually singular} UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
- We were just having a whinge about our boss - nothing new.
whinger
noun {C} UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
a person who complains continually
Trust me SWMBO is an English Teacher
whinge
verb {I} whingeing or whinging UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
to complain, especially about something which does not seem important:
- Oh stop whinging, for heaven's sake!
- She's always whingeing (on) about something.
whinge
noun {C usually singular} UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
- We were just having a whinge about our boss - nothing new.
whinger
noun {C} UK INFORMAL DISAPPROVING
a person who complains continually
Trust me SWMBO is an English Teacher
ColdFusion
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
SWMBO wants a Scooby Doo for the chart table /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
SWMBO wants a Scooby Doo for the chart table /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
BrendanS
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
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most of us would shout and swear
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If you watched it through, she did mention screaming at the heavens until she was red in the face.
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most of us would shout and swear
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If you watched it through, she did mention screaming at the heavens until she was red in the face.
Colin_S
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Watched and enjoyed it too. 3 days with just 15 minutes sleep and then just an average of 3 hours a day - incredible. Comments such as how she breathed on her fleece to warm it up and remind herself of a warm bed made her all the more human IMO. My nephew had one of those fleeces - called it his num num. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
As Ellen is obviously computer literate, wonder if she ever reads this forum. Be interesting to get her on line for an evening's Q&A session.
Watched and enjoyed it too. 3 days with just 15 minutes sleep and then just an average of 3 hours a day - incredible. Comments such as how she breathed on her fleece to warm it up and remind herself of a warm bed made her all the more human IMO. My nephew had one of those fleeces - called it his num num. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
As Ellen is obviously computer literate, wonder if she ever reads this forum. Be interesting to get her on line for an evening's Q&A session.
DaveNTL
Well-known member
Re: Whinging
hmmm. i still think that the lexicographers have got whine mixed up with windge /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
hmmm. i still think that the lexicographers have got whine mixed up with windge /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
doris
Well-known member
The non boaty view
Have spoken to three non sailors since the prog and they were all of the view that it was brill...and that they all, independently, held her in awe. None of the forum style carping about her wingeing, just huge admiration for her strength of mind, character and skill. Best depiction I have seen yet. Hope she makes her fortune, she's earned it.
Have spoken to three non sailors since the prog and they were all of the view that it was brill...and that they all, independently, held her in awe. None of the forum style carping about her wingeing, just huge admiration for her strength of mind, character and skill. Best depiction I have seen yet. Hope she makes her fortune, she's earned it.
tugboat
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Re: Ellen on TV - Post Mortem
Excellent programme and the low helicopter shots of the boat going like stink for the line were great. As usual any faults were by the producers. The narrator had a really irritating voice (to add drama I suppose) and he couldn't even pronounce 'Suhaili' correctly. Tosser!
Excellent programme and the low helicopter shots of the boat going like stink for the line were great. As usual any faults were by the producers. The narrator had a really irritating voice (to add drama I suppose) and he couldn't even pronounce 'Suhaili' correctly. Tosser!