Portland Bill : personal experience

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Interestingly, you didn’t see a single pot in your way😁 Something to do with the ruffled water I daresay.
I don't think so - our course seemed quite clear of pots - and we were maintaining a very good look out and were early in the tide, so pot markers were unlikely to have been dragged under. The water on the E. side was pretty much flat calm with very few pots in evidence.

I don't, of course, suggest that this isn't a significant risk here.
 

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Good heads up about Lymington as we'll be there (for the 1st time) soon.
Anywhere less than 5m you need to be especially alert to it. Tacking up the shore against the tide it’s a real headache. Hopefully you’ll avoid that with decent passage planning. Yarmouth well worth a visit too, cheaper than Lymington and no tedious trip up a river to get there. Though you have to watch out for madmen in their XODs on race days, we appear suddenly, from behind the pier🤣
 

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Anywhere less than 5m you need to be especially alert to it. Tacking up the shore against the tide it’s a real headache. Hopefully you’ll avoid that with decent passage planning. Yarmouth well worth a visit too, cheaper than Lymington and no tedious trip up a river to get there. Though you have to watch out for madmen in their XODs on race days, we appear suddenly, from behind the pier🤣
We're rather on a "go everywhere" trip, so I suspect Lymington, Yarmouth AND Keyhaven will all be tested!
 

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Is this calm inner passage a myth? And is the "small boy hitting the boat with a pebble" distance a bit of poetic licence?
I've done shore dives off the end of the Bill, "a stones throw" is not an exaggeration. It shelves down at about 60°.
If you haven't, have a look at the diagram on:
INSHORE OF PORTLAND RACE : Monty Mariner
It shows where and when the rough water areas occur.
 

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Not been round for a couple of years but have fond memories setting off from Dartmouth and taking the outside passage. By the time I got there strong westerly and the tide had turned. Spent 6 hours having the time of my life. Eventually limped in to Portland at 2 am. Woke next morning to life jackets going off boat was so wet.

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Got to add id intended to be tied up in Portland by 1800 hrs. All was going well until around 1500 hrs . I was from memory 4 miles out. All I could do was maintain and steer a course avoiding the breaking waves hitting the beam. I was well south of the Shambles. It was such a calm day when I set off from Dartmouth!!!
 
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Some time ago we were in intending to pass the recommended few miles off of Portland Bill, but the engine had refused to start after a night at Lyme Regis, and the wind was very light so we would never get that distance south before the tide turned against us. I consulted the pilot book, gritted my teeth and went for the inshore passage, nervously keeping very close to the rocks as recommended. It was fortunately calm, and we were enjoying the scenery and how intrepid we felt.

All was going well until just off the very tip of the Bill the wind died completely, we lost steerage way, and the boat pirouetted round and round as the tide swept us past and then away from the Bill, where the sea was rather more confused. Then we were swept backwards over the Shambles Bank, where it was decidedly bouncy, but fortunately due to the calm weather and now only the tail end of the tide we lived to tell the tale. 😁
 

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My first W>E passage of The Bill was in 1972, helming a JSAST Nicholson 55 with legendary John Reeve as skipper. It had been blowing very hard from the west for a full day, and the tidestream was ebbing. He/we had a spinnnaker up, and he directed us right through the middle of the Race.

That was a monumental half-hour!

Later, secured in Weymouth, I asked him why he'd taken us through there. "So you've now seen what it's truly like, and so you'll never go through there wind-against-tide ever again..."

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Later, secured in Weymouth, I asked him why he'd taken us through there. "So you've now seen what it's truly like, and so you'll never go through there wind-against-tide ever again..."

:eek:
I watched the Sailing Brothers on Youtube go through the race and that was enough to tell me not to take the family that way. This year due to timings we kept well offshore.
 

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The worst we’ve had in our current boat is Poole entrance in about 20kn of SE wind against a spring ebb. No idea how that is against the race, but it was fairly unpleasant. Though we did hit our highest ever speed, both SOG and STW, with a 4 knot difference in favour of the log. No choice but to surf our way in.
 

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The worst we’ve had in our current boat is Poole entrance in about 20kn of SE wind against a spring ebb. No idea how that is against the race, but it was fairly unpleasant. Though we did hit our highest ever speed, both SOG and STW, with a 4 knot difference in favour of the log. No choice but to surf our way in.

The things about a race or overfalls is the confused seas - it's not just big waves, but they come at you from all directions, and the different waves combine to add or deduct height. All very irregular and unpredictable. You really get slammed about, easy to get green water into the boat, and it can be difficult to hold a course..
 

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The things about a race or overfalls is the confused seas - it's not just big waves, but they come at you from all directions, and the different waves combine to add or deduct height. All very irregular and unpredictable. You really get slammed about, easy to get green water into the boat, and it can be difficult to hold a course..
We sail straight through other races without finding them much like that. Rough and uncomfortable, definitely. Multis float high, and are light, we get picked up by the crests rather than getting much green water on deck. Nonetheless, Portland is, we are all told, the worst. We wouldn’t deliberately risk that.
 
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Having totally cocked up timings on my last trip West, I think St Aldhems ledge can just as unpleasant as the Bill in typical cruising conditions.
Coming back East, took the inshore route all the way from Lyme Regis and got to Portland a little early so gilled about off Fortuneswell waiting for the recommended time and ended up motoring round close in to the Bill. Loads of pots and fishing boats but easily spotted in the sunshine! (the pots that is:))
Will always use Portland marina over Weymouth due to excessive crowding and long hike from the Cove to the showers, also The Cove was very noisy until late on a summer evening rammed with drunks and idiots. The marina was about the same price with better facilities.
 
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