Poo Poll

Do you put your toilet paper in your sea toilet and flush into the sea?

  • No. I put it in a separate bin and remove from the boat.

    Votes: 83 45.4%

  • Yes. It's just toilet paper and it will biodegrade.

    Votes: 99 54.1%

  • No. But I do put it over the side.

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Total voters
    183
Sharky34 said:
How, is it "going green", if your crap goes outboard?
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IMHO it's obviously greener (a)than using a chemical toilet, (b) than using a holding tank to which deodorant products have been added, or (c), emptying a holding tank into a system which treats the waste products ashore, which may involve the use of energy, possibly produced with the use of fossil fuels. The "crap"is, after al,l a completely natural product, being returned to nature. And to conclude, this discussion is intended to be about the disposal of used toilet paper.
 
Beneteau381 said:
All my years of sailing! Blah blah! :)
Never had a blocked head on two boats. Never had calcium blockage either, six pumps of seawater washes the urine out which reacts with the seawater to keep the pipes clean. Paper goes down the bog, it’s designed to break up when wet. Its the use of kitchen roll etc which doesn’t disintegrate when wet which does the blocking. The Greek habit and the Portuguese one of putting in a bin was brought about by their poor plumbing construction methods, since the EU came along and standardisation of sewage pipe sizes at a proper size the issue has become irrelevant.
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Bog paper in bins is also the Soviet way ....

Many of the housing blocks were built by military and they would use any material they could get hold of to complete on time. Not unusual to find different sized pipes joined to complete a run ... stairs with different step heights .... etc
 
Spirit (of Glenans) said:
IMHO it's obviously greener (a)than using a chemical toilet, (b) than using a holding tank to which deodorant products have been added, or (c), emptying a holding tank into a system which treats the waste products ashore, which may involve the use of energy, possibly produced with the use of fossil fuels. The "crap"is, after al,l a completely natural product, being returned to nature. And to conclude, this discussion is intended to be about the disposal of used toilet paper.
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Its OK if in small amounts ... but if you ever get near to where untreated outfalls have been - the seabed is literally dead. It stifles the oxygen and kills of anything that was growing there.
 
Beneteau381 said:
All my years of sailing! Blah blah! :)
Never had a blocked head on two boats. Never had calcium blockage either, six pumps of seawater washes the urine out which reacts with the seawater to keep the pipes clean. Paper goes down the bog, it’s designed to break up when wet. Its the use of kitchen roll etc which doesn’t disintegrate when wet which does the blocking. The Greek habit and the Portuguese one of putting in a bin was brought about by their poor plumbing construction methods, since the EU came along and standardisation of sewage pipe sizes at a proper size the issue has become irrelevant.
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Hiya. Yeah, these threads always polarise into the haves and the have nots....so to speak! :)

The first heads I ever unblocked was on British Soldier, a Nicholson 55. Like Kukri! I havent been seasick since. :sick: That was around late 1980's.

List of others. Moody 33. Jeanneau 36'2, Sadler 34, Jenneau 45 holding tank, Bav 37. Sunseeker 65 with electric pump and others besides.

Mostly more than once particularly the commercial ones. Just to show with heavy use it doesnt matter what you got, blake, lavac, jabsco and no matter how much you tell people, sooner or later that discharge pipe gets calcified and you got snags.

I put aguafuerte through regularly on my nearly not anymore liveaboard yacht. Has, so far, has kept the pipe clear.

Must say that nearly everywhere in Spain has notices warning against putting paper in the head and bins provided. Restaurants, bars, hotels and marina services.

But dudes, feel free to 'risk it'. :eek::eek:
 
25931 said:
Quite common in Portuguese restaurants.
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I built the porta cabin camp in Soyo in the late 70s in Angola. I put in 4” sewage pipes. When the Portuguese caterers moved in we wondered why there was always a hint of essence of poo in their heads. It was then that I discovered the quaint habit people have of storing skid marked toilet paper. I told them in no uncertain terms what I thought and that their excuse of blocked heads? If any got blocked, I would deal with it! Their was never an issue! Oh, I forgot, there was one, the dozy camp boss thought it was a good idea to flush the empty plastic deodoriser thingies down the pan, I removed four of them out of the U bend, waved them in his face and told him what I would do with them if I found them being used again!
 
Wasn't Angola at war in the late 70's? If so what were you doing there?
 
I remember when as part of a delivery crew in a brand new Westerly Vulcan was pumping out this new fangled (1981) holding tank and said to the skipper "I wonder why this tank has a domed top ?" He went quite pale and shouted "Stop" The outlet valve indications had been placed, as one might say, arse about face. It's interesting to conjecture what might have happened.
 
capnsensible said:
Hiya. Yeah, these threads always polarise into the haves and the have nots....so to speak! :)

The first heads I ever unblocked was on British Soldier, a Nicholson 55. Like Kukri! I havent been seasick since. :sick: That was around late 1980's.

List of others. Moody 33. Jeanneau 36'2, Sadler 34, Jenneau 45 holding tank, Bav 37. Sunseeker 65 with electric pump and others besides.

Mostly more than once particularly the commercial ones. Just to show with heavy use it doesnt matter what you got, blake, lavac, jabsco and no matter how much you tell people, sooner or later that discharge pipe gets calcified and you got snags.

I put aguafuerte through regularly on my nearly not anymore liveaboard yacht. Has, so far, has kept the pipe clear.

Must say that nearly everywhere in Spain has notices warning against putting paper in the head and bins provided. Restaurants, bars, hotels and marina services.

But dudes, feel free to 'risk it'. :eek::eek:
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Kukri came with one of those Jabsco bogs - and a log book which records the spare seat for it being called for on her last Fastnet... One dreads to think...

Anyway, in recognition of her sterling qualities she is getting a Blakes’ Victory, once sat on by Sir Winston Churchill.
 
25931 said:
I remember when as part of a delivery crew in a brand new Westerly Vulcan was pumping out this new fangled (1981) holding tank and said to the skipper "I wonder why this tank has a domed top ?" He went quite pale and shouted "Stop" The outlet valve indications had been placed, as one might say, arse about face. It's interesting to conjecture what might have happened.
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Delivering a Match 35 from Germany to Latvia sold by a Rental Co.

It had holding tank situated behind a panel next to navigators station ... and heads compartment. Whoever designed the setup never thought about how to service it.
We left Travemunde and found it blocked and full !! (The seller struck me as a right shark when we met him ... ).

Me ? I was fine to use a bucket and chuck it .... but Sergei was determined to get it working ....

Imagine a panel about 6" wide and 12" tall is the access to the tank ... but tank is actually a further 6" back from that access ... with a screw top not in line with access. Sergei got his arm in ... but could only just get hand into the muck and a long way short of necessary ... No way could you get a stick or anything else in ...
The only way appeared to be a sani-snake through the pump out pipe ... which of course we did not have.

It had overboard capability - but that was of course via the bl***y tank which was blocked ... what a daft set-up !!
 
Kukri said:
Kukri came with one of those Jabsco bogs - and a log book which records the spare seat for it being called for on her last Fastnet... One dreads to think...

Anyway, in recognition of her sterling qualities she is getting a Blakes’ Victory, once sat on by Sir Winston Churchill.
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They Come and they GO ... but the Blake still keeps on working ...

Plenty people have noted the Blake on my boat and commented I should 'upgrade' to a more modern unit ... Why ? So I have two handles to pump (one IN .. other OUT) ... simple and it keeps on working ...

Another use - and the Blake is noted as the best for this ... emergency bilge pump .......... seal a pipe into the bog and use the OUT pump ... or even connect pipe to the IN pump and use that ..
 
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