Nautical
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Second thoughts, that really is too big a can of worms!
Second thoughts, that really is too big a can of worms!
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BrendanS
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Re: Hm
OK, enough. I don't mind being picked on by Gludy, or having a discussion with him, which ever way you want to see it, or anyone else, I'm big enough to cope, and argue back. Lets all drop this now, and let Gludy post again in the future without past threads being dragged in. He'll be back eventually, but horn locking isn't achieving much.
There is no clique here, and never was, as the 'old time' regulars will argue at least as much with each other as anyone else.
What probably is true is that these heated debates are amusing to regulars who have seen most of the common questions before, and provide some impetus to post on a new topic rather than an old one they've seen before. However, it's not going to encourage many lurkers out.
OK, enough. I don't mind being picked on by Gludy, or having a discussion with him, which ever way you want to see it, or anyone else, I'm big enough to cope, and argue back. Lets all drop this now, and let Gludy post again in the future without past threads being dragged in. He'll be back eventually, but horn locking isn't achieving much.
There is no clique here, and never was, as the 'old time' regulars will argue at least as much with each other as anyone else.
What probably is true is that these heated debates are amusing to regulars who have seen most of the common questions before, and provide some impetus to post on a new topic rather than an old one they've seen before. However, it's not going to encourage many lurkers out.
jimi
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Re: Hm
Furck aff yah crabbit git .. it wiz you that started it .. so stop being a pharisitical hypocrite playing the peacemaker ... eat bluidy humble pie and apologise!
Furck aff yah crabbit git .. it wiz you that started it .. so stop being a pharisitical hypocrite playing the peacemaker ... eat bluidy humble pie and apologise!
Sammo
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Re: Hm
Paul
I must come on to say that you have summed it up perfectly.
I was shocked to see Roy has done a U turn but there you go perhaps that`s what happens here,
I want to tell you though I did enjoy the other night when you did the 200+ I was saving that picture till the end. spoilt a bit by the character assassination that followed but there you are. I have enjoyed banter with jimi and hayden whom personally I find inoffensive, even though they are.
It has been suggested that I am an arrogant rude and impolite newcomer – I don’t think so, at 60 years old I still have friends that I went to School with and enjoy a large circle of friends on the Severn, no, this just part of the tactics employed to keep newcomers in line.
Also most of my time in the RN was spent in submarines, serving in small diesel T boats in the 60`s, not a job for anyone who is not easygoing.
I am full of sea stories (that`s why my kids call me Uncle Albert) but whenever I tell one here all I get is a groan or someone jumps up and gleefully announces they’ve heard it.
If you look at my posts you will see a story of someone who tried to have a laugh and a joke, maybe a bit amateurish and sometimes a bit flat. but all harmless.
One chap came in and said, thanks for making me laugh on a Monday morning.
Another said, good post thanks.
Then there was that awful woman who swore at me, ([censored] of pig) I still don`t know why but I apologised anyway. That’s a terrible way to treat a newcomer, then I started to treat them the same way they were treating me, that was perhaps a mistake. Perhaps I should have rolled over belly up and been subservient, But you shouldn’t have to do that, this is a forum not boot camp.
It`s taught me a lesson, before joining any more forums I shall look long and hard to see if a clique exists and if it does I shall avoid it like the plague.
Shame, most of it was enjoyable.
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Paul
I must come on to say that you have summed it up perfectly.
I was shocked to see Roy has done a U turn but there you go perhaps that`s what happens here,
I want to tell you though I did enjoy the other night when you did the 200+ I was saving that picture till the end. spoilt a bit by the character assassination that followed but there you are. I have enjoyed banter with jimi and hayden whom personally I find inoffensive, even though they are.
It has been suggested that I am an arrogant rude and impolite newcomer – I don’t think so, at 60 years old I still have friends that I went to School with and enjoy a large circle of friends on the Severn, no, this just part of the tactics employed to keep newcomers in line.
Also most of my time in the RN was spent in submarines, serving in small diesel T boats in the 60`s, not a job for anyone who is not easygoing.
I am full of sea stories (that`s why my kids call me Uncle Albert) but whenever I tell one here all I get is a groan or someone jumps up and gleefully announces they’ve heard it.
If you look at my posts you will see a story of someone who tried to have a laugh and a joke, maybe a bit amateurish and sometimes a bit flat. but all harmless.
One chap came in and said, thanks for making me laugh on a Monday morning.
Another said, good post thanks.
Then there was that awful woman who swore at me, ([censored] of pig) I still don`t know why but I apologised anyway. That’s a terrible way to treat a newcomer, then I started to treat them the same way they were treating me, that was perhaps a mistake. Perhaps I should have rolled over belly up and been subservient, But you shouldn’t have to do that, this is a forum not boot camp.
It`s taught me a lesson, before joining any more forums I shall look long and hard to see if a clique exists and if it does I shall avoid it like the plague.
Shame, most of it was enjoyable.
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Roy
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Re: Hm
Hya Unc - before you run off, what u turn is it you think I did? Cant think of any.......
Hya Unc - before you run off, what u turn is it you think I did? Cant think of any.......
jimi
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Re: Hm
Och come on... its all a bit of a larf, lifes too short to get all silly. At the end of the day we all enjoy boats, the sea, bit of banter .. lets just share the common ground, I'm sure if we had a beer we'd alll just grin & laugh ..FWIW I do'nt think there's a clique, sure ther's people that know each other but clique .. no
Och come on... its all a bit of a larf, lifes too short to get all silly. At the end of the day we all enjoy boats, the sea, bit of banter .. lets just share the common ground, I'm sure if we had a beer we'd alll just grin & laugh ..FWIW I do'nt think there's a clique, sure ther's people that know each other but clique .. no
tcm
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oi! whose argument is this anyway?
flippinek. me and gludy have a perfectly decent set-to - and all of sudden everyone is joining us outside in the carpark! C'mon gludy, let's nip back to the bar and pinch their drinks and wait till the cops turn up hehehe....
flippinek. me and gludy have a perfectly decent set-to - and all of sudden everyone is joining us outside in the carpark! C'mon gludy, let's nip back to the bar and pinch their drinks and wait till the cops turn up hehehe....
Gludy
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Re: Hm
"I wonder what "clique" helped and (wisely) advised against buying that Cara? It was this lot on this forum, wasn't it, hm?! "
The Cara thread is a very good example - I was going through the process of deciding to purchase or not and there was a great deal of deabte inluding enourmous threads on jets engines but the reason in the end I di not buy was because of advice from you on the lines of watching its resale value ..... I also told you that at the time and since. There was a great deal of cut and thrust in that debate but never was it personal.... ever. Importantly, I also took the advice which rather goes against the theory that i do not .... yes?
"This time, you took my innocent post and banged on and on."
Nope I asked simple questions and whilst you stayed out of it tried to reasonably show how weather conditions can be mireported.
"This lead from a post which you posted about the worst werather people had been in which included a poll (which we all accept included loads of fibs) and you settled upon brendan as your target. You've gotten yourself in a right state. "
No - I settled on the single issue of a 21 foot boat in an f10. It was the issue not the person and there at that time was a lot of humour by me in the whole thing.
"There's no "clique" - end of story. Itseems that you aren't using the word correctly. I'm not "part of that lot" whatever that means - i have my own sometimes quite daft views. You, on the other hand, have been boating for a just a few years in one particular part of the UK and your posts read as intransigently as multiple circumnavigator. You were iontransigent about the cara until i hit you with the depreciation thing. "
That is totally illogical, the Cara thing was an example of a deep discussion where I opted to take the good advice and apply it ..... that cannot be intransigent be defintion. The debate was also on a different scale to any I have been involved in since but again I do not recall any personal stuff.
I put my case forward on any subject and I am willing to discuss the issues but yet again this 'your posts read as intransigently as multiple circumnavigator' is the way you make it personal instead of sticking to the issues.
It does not matter if I am 9 foot tall, wear a pink hat and boots and stand on top of lateral bouys ... what matters are the issues and it is those that should be discussed ... fine have a laugh along the way but not personal attacks. If a begiine raises a wrong point then surely it is easy to show that.
I can have my views - you can have yours. Everyone else can have theirs too. They can draw their own conclusions - they do NOT need you or me to say "well, that's plain stupid, only and idiot would etc etc etc"
My view is that it is plain stupid and I say so, I actually think most would agree but may not wish to say so.
"I think that aspects of your previous post including "you are part of that lot" and your response to my saying what my feelings are (which you have to say only i can report, not you) as "total rubbish" were not worthy of you and you should withdraw them. "
You explained what your feelings were ie. you thought I was calling you a liar - I was commenting only on that. I repeat at no stage, even now, do I think you were lying about what the wind readings were. I was simply trying to provide a logical explanation that fitted all the reported facts together and also disproved your point that its OK in some f01;s to take out a 21 foot boat.... its as simple as that.
However that as I have said before is not the issue, it is the way everything is personalised ..... thats what makes it not worht the candle.
"I wonder what "clique" helped and (wisely) advised against buying that Cara? It was this lot on this forum, wasn't it, hm?! "
The Cara thread is a very good example - I was going through the process of deciding to purchase or not and there was a great deal of deabte inluding enourmous threads on jets engines but the reason in the end I di not buy was because of advice from you on the lines of watching its resale value ..... I also told you that at the time and since. There was a great deal of cut and thrust in that debate but never was it personal.... ever. Importantly, I also took the advice which rather goes against the theory that i do not .... yes?
"This time, you took my innocent post and banged on and on."
Nope I asked simple questions and whilst you stayed out of it tried to reasonably show how weather conditions can be mireported.
"This lead from a post which you posted about the worst werather people had been in which included a poll (which we all accept included loads of fibs) and you settled upon brendan as your target. You've gotten yourself in a right state. "
No - I settled on the single issue of a 21 foot boat in an f10. It was the issue not the person and there at that time was a lot of humour by me in the whole thing.
"There's no "clique" - end of story. Itseems that you aren't using the word correctly. I'm not "part of that lot" whatever that means - i have my own sometimes quite daft views. You, on the other hand, have been boating for a just a few years in one particular part of the UK and your posts read as intransigently as multiple circumnavigator. You were iontransigent about the cara until i hit you with the depreciation thing. "
That is totally illogical, the Cara thing was an example of a deep discussion where I opted to take the good advice and apply it ..... that cannot be intransigent be defintion. The debate was also on a different scale to any I have been involved in since but again I do not recall any personal stuff.
I put my case forward on any subject and I am willing to discuss the issues but yet again this 'your posts read as intransigently as multiple circumnavigator' is the way you make it personal instead of sticking to the issues.
It does not matter if I am 9 foot tall, wear a pink hat and boots and stand on top of lateral bouys ... what matters are the issues and it is those that should be discussed ... fine have a laugh along the way but not personal attacks. If a begiine raises a wrong point then surely it is easy to show that.
I can have my views - you can have yours. Everyone else can have theirs too. They can draw their own conclusions - they do NOT need you or me to say "well, that's plain stupid, only and idiot would etc etc etc"
My view is that it is plain stupid and I say so, I actually think most would agree but may not wish to say so.
"I think that aspects of your previous post including "you are part of that lot" and your response to my saying what my feelings are (which you have to say only i can report, not you) as "total rubbish" were not worthy of you and you should withdraw them. "
You explained what your feelings were ie. you thought I was calling you a liar - I was commenting only on that. I repeat at no stage, even now, do I think you were lying about what the wind readings were. I was simply trying to provide a logical explanation that fitted all the reported facts together and also disproved your point that its OK in some f01;s to take out a 21 foot boat.... its as simple as that.
However that as I have said before is not the issue, it is the way everything is personalised ..... thats what makes it not worht the candle.
BrendanS
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Re: Hm
I spent some time on the phone with him the other night. Not sure we progressed much though. We've agreed to disagree I think
I spent some time on the phone with him the other night. Not sure we progressed much though. We've agreed to disagree I think
jimi
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Erm Brendan, I'm sorry I did'nt mean to offend you, hope your not upset with me. Still think your an ugly git though!
Erm Brendan, I'm sorry I did'nt mean to offend you, hope your not upset with me. Still think your an ugly git though!
Gludy
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Brendan
I was not going to mention the phone chat the other night - its a pity you have to join in with that with a sort of 'I tried but failed' point.
.I however will keep my word and not breach the confidence, even though that would have certainly had an impact on the discussion. A sort of one sided confidential phone call then.
Brendan
I was not going to mention the phone chat the other night - its a pity you have to join in with that with a sort of 'I tried but failed' point.
.I however will keep my word and not breach the confidence, even though that would have certainly had an impact on the discussion. A sort of one sided confidential phone call then.
tcm
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personalised
uh, not sure how it can NOT be at leat a little bit "personal" - in the way that you use the word? You seem to be twisting things around a lot. And of course - that last sentence is personal too!
You could and should withdraw a meaningless point when someone asks. You won't even do that.
I think we can let others draw their own conclusions.
Let's leave it there.
uh, not sure how it can NOT be at leat a little bit "personal" - in the way that you use the word? You seem to be twisting things around a lot. And of course - that last sentence is personal too!
You could and should withdraw a meaningless point when someone asks. You won't even do that.
I think we can let others draw their own conclusions.
Let's leave it there.
BrendanS
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Re: Hm
Let's not start again. I said nothing of the sort. Just pointing out we'd made an effort to reconcile some differences, a very differnt thing. We tried though, and that's the point.
One day we'll meet up over a beer, and probably get on like a house on fire.
Let's not start again. I said nothing of the sort. Just pointing out we'd made an effort to reconcile some differences, a very differnt thing. We tried though, and that's the point.
One day we'll meet up over a beer, and probably get on like a house on fire.
jimi
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Re: personalised
and you're an ugly git as well ..
and you're an ugly git as well ..
Gludy
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Re: personalised
Lets leave it there... agreed.
Lets leave it there... agreed.
kimhollamby
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Okay, that\'s enough from all concerned
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