Piezo-electric lighter and Origo

[sarabande]

I am away from the boat and wondering if a piezo-electric lighter (the no butane variant) will work to ignite an alcohol stove ?

All part of reducing risks and avoiding the need for a can of lighter fuel on board.

 

[SiteSurfer]

Excuse my ignorance, but do you mean one that simply sparks?
If so then I've had no joy with that approach, always had to have a little butane lighter (or two) to get going.

Never had an issue with the cans of lighter refill, can't imagine they pose any more risk than a can of deodorant. (Other than the deodorant smells better).

 

[sarabande]

yes, sparky one only.

 

[matthewriches]

I don’t think a spark igniter would work with an alcohol stove.

 

[jamie N]

+1, unless the burner was still hot from its last use, which isn't a lot of use!

 

[Yorkshire Exile]

For my two burner stove I use a long shaft gas lighter ( from hardware or camping shops). You need the length to get the flame close to the burner. Some people use matches but this can cause a problem if the match drops on to the burner as it eventually destroys the metal grid over the lint.

 

[Cockaigne]

If you don't want a butane lighter, why not use matches? Those extra long cooks' matches are ideal.

 

[yerffoeg]

I also thought this would be a good idea, but I never managed to get the piezo to light our Origo stove. We use biofuel these days, but meths might ignite more easily.

 

[Spyro]

Long nosed gas lighters available in supermarkets work just fine and if you are bothered about carrying spare lighter fuel just don't, the lighters last a long time and are so cheap just buy a new one when you need it.
Spark lighters don't work.

 

[penberth3]

...if you are bothered about carrying spare lighter fuel just don't, the lighters last a long time and are so cheap just buy a new one when you need it...

Agreed, a spare lighter stored separately would minimise any fire risk.

 

[sarabande]

I have yet to find a gas lighter that does not leak and leave one reliant on matches.


So, I spent £10 on Amazon and bought an electric flameless lighter.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_s...tchen&field-keywords=Jackisspro+Electric+ARC+

It charges from a USB socket, lasts several 100 ignitions between charges, and can set fire to paper as well. And all with nary a can of butane on board. The flexible head works well and the lighter had no problem with a cold Origo.


Recommended.

 

[lw395]

I have yet to find a gas lighter that does not leak and leave one reliant on matches.
....

Well I've had a couple which came from some camping shop or other ten years ago. They can't leak much as I've only refilled them a couple of times. Never needed to keep the refill can of butane on board, just take the lighter home for refilling when needed. A few grammes of butane is enough to last months on board, not really a hazard IMO. If you're extra careful (paranoid?), don't put much butane in.

 

[andygc]

I have yet to find a gas lighter that does not leak and leave one reliant on matches.

I got mine from Lidl over 4 years ago. I refilled it about three years ago and it's still two thirds full (there's a window so you can see how much liquid is left).

 

[zoidberg]

I have yet to find a gas lighter that does not leak and leave one reliant on matches.


So, I spent £10 on Amazon and bought an electric flameless lighter..... The flexible head works well and the lighter had no problem with a cold Origo.

Will that help with the sackful of tufty ends you're about to start splicing....? Or will you need matches like the rest of us?

It's a clever idea, though. But have you seen the postage costs...?

 

[sarabande]

One adds a few essential items such a LED panel lights, spare mirrors for the Honda motorsikkle, and a diamond sharpener stone for fishhooks, and those lovely Amazing people send it all to you free of P&P.

 

[William_H]

Presumably the electric lighter which does work has an element that gets hot with current which may do the job. Certainly a feeble spark is OK for gas but no good for meths. Meths needs heat to vaporise to get ignition.
Now just as a matter of interest jet engines use a spark igniter to ignite the kerosene. Probably harder to ignite than meths or at least similar. But the kero is sprayed into the combustion chamber. But the igniter system is no piezo device. They use a lot of current at 24v raising the voltage into a large capacitor to discharge across a spark gap with huge energy. This does vaporise the kero nearby and gets ignition. The energy in the discharge is such that if operated without the engine rotating it can be heard from a great distance even though the discharge is inside the engine. Almost like a small gun about every second. So that might be one option for OP. Well no not really ol'will

 

[sarabande]

There is no element at the tip of the device, W_H,. When the button is pressed, there is a giant constant spark across two electrodes with a gap of approx 10mm. You can hear the sizzle'.

 

[lw395]

There is no element at the tip of the device, W_H,. When the button is pressed, there is a giant constant spark across two electrodes with a gap of approx 10mm. You can hear the sizzle'.

Doubles up as a Tazer for slow crew?