peep your horn if you don't like raggies.

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On a slightly different tack I still haven't heard any raggies with a genuine defence for running their engines for long periods at anchor. There still seems to be some concept of this being OK, while a genny isnt.
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Absolutely agree there. If my batteries need a charge I go for a run up & down the harbour (slowly!). It is better to run the engine under some load, I get some more slow speed manouvering practice & a chance to say hello to guys at the opposite end of the harbour. If there's time I'll get the bridge open & putter up & down the Strait for an hour so I can feel as if I've "been somewhere".

A fellow raggie club member has strict guidelines about when & how long he runs his engine on the mooring - but it still means I have to have all the hatches shut & covers zipped up to avoid asphyxiation.

As long as we understand the impact of our actions on others, it is easy to minmise disturbance. Unfortunately a few selfish ones (Raggies AND Stinkies) tend to spoil the enjoyment of many others - and mainly because they have no idea of how annoying their behaviour can be.

"Iechyd Da" - I had to look it up, along with the Scots & Irish versions. :D

We say them all the time, but seldom need to write them!
 
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I have come to the conclusion that people are generally pretty selfish.
I hate people that wear ruck sacks on crowded trains and in lifts.
They wander through the carriage bashing people as they turn round, oblivious to the carnage behind them.
Lost my paper to one of them this morning.
Since we are now talking about trains and confined spaces, I want to bring up headphones...
 
Ubergeekian said:
No. I go to anchorages for peace and quiet, and I assume that other people do as well.
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Yes of course we do, we dont have the genny on 24/7, we only run it for an hour a day, I put a litre of petrol in it as we go to the pub, it lasts an 1 - 1 1/2 and has run out of fuel by the time we get back. ;)
 
DAKA said:
Yes of course we do, we dont have the genny on 24/7, we only run it for an hour a day, I put a litre of petrol in it as we go to the pub, it lasts an 1 - 1 1/2 and has run out of fuel by the time we get back. ;)
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Yeah, I suppose it's a bit noisy and smelly to have going while you're actually on the boat ;)
 
I own a sailing boat, but also do a fair amount of motorboating with a friend.

I think it would be fair to say I have met just as many unpleasant raggies as I have stinkpotters.

Its just a small minority of people, but they come in all shapes and sizes, and with all sorts of prejudices.

Anything else is just stirring, and the magazines are pretty bad at it. Seems they have a few articles on this topic that get hauled out whenever they are short of real content.
 
... just thought i'd pop back in to see if the contract on Searush had been completed yet? :)

To the current subject.... IMHO, nothing wrong with running a genny at midday in a busy anchorage with tenders whizzing about and lots of squealing from the kids on the beach.... totally different matter at 10:00 at night in a windless moonlit anchorage... but then I guess we'd all agree with that....

For my part... I welcome moboers on board to experience some of our delightful east coast anchorages by sail.... and I welcome the chance to reverse the opportunity.... I find generally that everyone appreciates the beauty of a silent warm evening in a glorious location whatever their boating persuasion... but then again, despite being a raggie, i'm a complete petrolhead too, so maybe I don't count!
 
jhr said:
Tell me about it - grown men run for cover when they see me approaching.

Morgana will attest to the fact that (a) I am occasionally drawn over to the Dark Side and (b) I am equally crap at helming a raggie :D
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Wellllll.......

Despite thinking Belgium would be nice, I did wonder if you had Sweden in mind at one point...... :)

...and anyway... i've just realised that this whole damned thread is a very subtle and clever subterfuge.... you just want to laugh at our weedy little Nissan Micra style horns don't you? eh? don't you?
 
Searush said:
This is NOT a wind-up, just a puzzled & iggerunt raggie wondering why you need a generator? I don't need one (I did buy one for using power tools during refit, but never got round to starting it yet) & I try to not use my engine either, but you have to run your engines everywhere you go - don't you have any alternators on them? So why do you still need a genny?

BTW the noise from engines & gennies in an anchorage is seldom audible, but the fumes from either in a harbour can be awful at any time of day or night. So please consider any boater downwind of you.

Mind you, I have little need for electrical equipment anyway.
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Beard trimmers?
 
Does anybody else react badly to the terminology used for motorboats?, ie, stinkboat, stinker, tupperware box, platic pig etc etc etc.
Its odd that "yotties" ( I think that is acceptable??) don't seem to think that the name stinkboat is in any way offensive (it is). I am sometimes introduced by yottie friends to other yotties as a stinkboater as if I would find it a term of endearment. They always seem to feel the need to identify me (somewhat patronisingly) as a moboer as if it was something that needed to be got out in the open. I would n't introduce them to fellow motorboat skippers as yachties, raggies or anything else. I wouldn't feel the need to make the distinction.
 
I agree... it is a bit rude....

I tend to introduce other boat owners as 'moboers' or 'sailors' where appropriate or just generally (and more usually) don't bother categorising, and then introduce what boat they own, sail or power later in the conversation.... I don't see the problem so much with introducing someone as a 'moboer' as that is occasionally useful info, but wouldn't use a vaguely insulting term like 'stinkpot'....

FWIW, the same problem exists even inside the 'sail' community in as much as old heavy boat owners often refer to newer design boat owners as 'soap dishes sailors' or 'yoghurt pot owners'..... sigh!
 
blueglass said:
They always seem to feel the need to identify me (somewhat patronisingly) as a moboer as if it was something that needed to be got out in the open.
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In much of the boating world, what you own is who you are. Almost all articles in the mags are careful to state exactly what make and model was involved, even when it's completely irrelevant: "We were just leaving Amble in our 2007 Princeline Winnebago 43DS when we saw ..." / "Here are some good recipes we have enjoyed in our 2008 Swabia 38..." I dunno why, but I guess it's the same sort of willy-waving status-seeking you get when groups of reps start comparing the options they've been given on their fleet Mondeos.
 
blueglass said:
Does anybody else react badly to the terminology used for motorboats?, ie, stinkboat, stinker, tupperware box, platic pig etc etc etc.
Its odd that "yotties" ( I think that is acceptable??) don't seem to think that the name stinkboat is in any way offensive (it is). I am sometimes introduced by yottie friends to other yotties as a stinkboater as if I would find it a term of endearment.
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I couldn't give a to55 what they call us, so long as it isn't personal. By the way, it is a term of endearment, you ought to hear what they call us behind our backs :)

I have a yottie mate who always refers to fellow yotties as WAFI's if that isn't offensive I don't know what is :eek:
 
blueglass said:
Does anybody else react badly to the terminology used for motorboats?, ie, stinkboat, stinker, tupperware box, platic pig etc etc etc.
Its odd that "yotties" ( I think that is acceptable??) don't seem to think that the name stinkboat is in any way offensive (it is). I am sometimes introduced by yottie friends to other yotties as a stinkboater as if I would find it a term of endearment. They always seem to feel the need to identify me (somewhat patronisingly) as a moboer as if it was something that needed to be got out in the open. I would n't introduce them to fellow motorboat skippers as yachties, raggies or anything else. I wouldn't feel the need to make the distinction.
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Getting a bit sensitive aren't we? You can call me what you like - as long as it isn't early in the morning . . . :rolleyes:

Raggy, WAFI, old git, even pompous - that's fine by me. If it really IS offensive name calling, it actually says more about the abuser than the abused. Chill; cos in my experience such epithets are more likely to be endearments than attempted put-downs.
 
Searush said:
Getting a bit sensitive aren't we? You can call me what you like - as long as it isn't early in the morning . . . :rolleyes:

Raggy, WAFI, old git, even pompous - that's fine by me. If it really IS offensive name calling, it actually says more about the abuser than the abused. Chill; cos in my experience such epithets are more likely to be endearments than attempted put-downs.
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not over sensitive - just don't see the need, as I explained. Maybe not in your case searush, but many do use stinkboat in a derogatory sense.
 
just out of interest......

.........how many of the posters on this (rather irritating) thread have been boating in the last 2 weeks?

Such a marked contrast to this thread - http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257142 - stinkies and wafis together where the most heated debate was who had the best christmas lights.....

If, as I suspect, it's not many, it's clear what the answer is!
 
Elessar said:
.........how many of the posters on this (rather irritating) thread have been boating in the last 2 weeks?

Such a marked contrast to this thread - http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257142 - stinkies and wafis together where the most heated debate was who had the best christmas lights.....

If, as I suspect, it's not many, it's clear what the answer is!
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We were on our boat all weekend. On Saturday night we went for a meal with a good friend who has his boat in the same marina as us.

His boat :

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Elessar said:
.........how many of the posters on this (rather irritating) thread have been boating in the last 2 weeks?

Such a marked contrast to this thread - http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257142 - stinkies and wafis together where the most heated debate was who had the best christmas lights.....

If, as I suspect, it's not many, it's clear what the answer is!
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I do apologise on behalf of all posters for the irritation we have caused. I wonder why you read it?
 
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